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Thousands of PS3s confiscated in the Netherlands - Injunction explained

Posted Mar 9, 2011 at 11:54PM EST by Mabie A.

Listed in: News Tags: Blu-ray, Sony
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1. Thousands of PS3s confiscated in the Netherlands
2. Injunction explained
3. Sony's statement

The dispute revolves on the Blu-ray patent technology, which, according to LG, was infringed upon by Sony. Three patents were specifically asserted to in the complaint filed by LG Electronics:

 

 

 

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  • European Patent 1676275 on a "recording medium having data structure for managing reproduction of text subtitle and reocrding and reproducing methods and apparatuses"; this patent was applied for in the US and various other countries.

 

  • European Patent 1730730 on a "recording medium and method and apparatus for reproducing text subtitle stream recorded on the recording medium; the corresponding US Patent No. 7,756,398 is one of the four patents asserted by LG in its ITC complaint over the PlayStation 3.

 

  • European Patent 1884934 on a "recording medikum having data structure for managing reproduction of data streams recorded thereon and recording and reproducing methods and apparatuses"; the corresponding US Patent No. 7,701,835 is also among the four patents asserted in LG's ITC complaint over the PS3.

 

 

Intellectual property activist Florian Mueller shared on his blog the 48-page injunction order on his blog, explaining further the backstory of this legal lockdown between the two corporate giants:

 

 

 

"LG explains that those patents are essential to the Blu-ray disc standard, and therefore, in LG's opinion, necessarily infringed by the PlayStation 3 since it comes with a Blu-ray player. LG claims that it was willing to grant Sony a license on FRAND (fair, reasonable and non-discriminatory) terms in accordance with the rules of the Blu-ray Disc Association (BDA), but LG says 'Sony wants to [take a license] only if LGE and Sony also reach aggrement on royalties in its entirely different and unrelated technology areas (such as TVs, monitors and mobile phones."

 

 

 

"LG expresses doubts about whether that position is in line with competition law, but at any rate, LG wants to receive royalties on Sony's PlayStation 3 sales... Under the circumstances, LG believes that Sony should be treated like any other patent infringer and not be allowed to sell the PS3 in the Netherlands until it has taken a license to LG's Blu-ray patents."

 

 

 




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+1 # RE: Thousands of PS3s confiscated in the NetherlandsMabie A. 2011-03-10 03:57
sony sure is spending a lot of time with the courts, aren't they?

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# RE: RE: Thousands of PS3s confiscated in the NetherlandsSnaku 2011-03-13 21:33
And they deserve it! They've become a ridiculously unscrupulous company of late and this attempt on their part to strongarm LGE into licenses or whatever on all products (and not just on the blu-ray tech) is just another example.

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-2 # RE: Thousands of PS3s confiscated in the NetherlandsAssassinXCV 2011-03-10 03:58
if i lived in the netherlands, and the police confiscated my system, i'd sue sony big time. i bet LG would back those people too.

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# idiotdethklok25 2011-03-10 06:09
Your an idiot aren't you? Why would you Sur Sony because LG and the courts are taking away your ps3. Not Sony.....

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# @dethklok25RaalfX2 2011-03-10 08:33
Seems like your the idiot, sir.
Your saying it's LGs and the courts fault Sony infringed patents, stealing other company's intellectual property?

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# RE: @dethklok25Snaku 2011-03-13 21:31
If company A sues company B and the police seize property I've payed for as a result, personally I would put the blame on the company doing the suing: they're the ones that called for the injunction so it would their fault that people's ps3's got seized.

But I seriously doubt it would come to that: I can't imagine they'd actually seize bought-and-payed-for units from people's homes. More likely they'd simply make Sony pay a fine or royalties on units sold.

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# SueSouthside 2011-03-10 08:46
Well, LG is taking away the PS3 because of the patent infringement. Sony is the one to blame, because they are selling a product that has a patent infringement. LG is just doing what it has to do to protect its patent.

Sony is going to have to answer a ton of complains of people who get their console taken away. Its their(sony) product not LG.

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+1 # RE: SueMusev 2011-03-10 18:43
They wont take peoples consoles away, thats ridiculous.

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+2 # RE: RE: Thousands of PS3s confiscated in the Netherlandsluckymouse 2011-03-10 08:41
They aren't even confiscating PS3's from people who already own them...

They are just confiscating them before they go to retailers...

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# SONY deserves all they getJUSTICE at last! 2011-03-10 09:05
:lol:

It's not GREAT that the PS3 units should be destroyed (recycled for sure)or does that mean the same thing?
Anyway...Its hard to comprehend how Ps3's already sold to people COULD be confiscated is beyond me!!!
It's not like they are a Health Hazard like exploding laptop batteries is it????????? :-*
So theres SONY claiming that Geohot & party are UPTO NO GOOD.....and then this new info hits the press that SONY are UPTO NO GOOD!!!!!What a Fukin'JOKE all round....I buy stuff and I get stuff at no extra cost....But recently I haven't bought anything BRAND NEW for years...It's pointless....USED is just as practical...or more so......Hell of a lot cheaper too!
I dearly hope that this affair really damages SONY beyond redemption...they deserve it.

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# RE: Thousands of PS3s confiscated in the NetherlandsPS360 Owner1 2011-03-10 09:42
Well, things can't get any worse for Sony can it? :P

Give 'em hell LG!! :-)

Geohot teach Sony how to behave too.

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+3 # I don't think soJokerjesus 2011-03-10 10:07
No one can come into your house and take your PS3 that YOU paid for legally even if it was infringing on a patent. It doesn't work that way, the judicial system would not waste the time and money it would cost to go to everyone's house and take their PS3. even if they did so they would have to give you its cost and the cost of all the games you bought. Far FAR too much effort for them.

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+3 # and why that happen so many years later...WindSlash 2011-03-10 10:34
Lucky-Goldstar (LG) was not aware of that right at the begginning???? During the Blu-Ray and HDDVD war.... it was SONY VS TOSHIBA.... but we never heard about LG owning the blu-ray... also by that time, most of LG player was HDDVD and not Blu-ray... Blu-Ray was (in the beginning) exclusive to SONY (for the first years of it's devellopment) after that came Samsung, etc, etc....

I'm pretty sure it's just a way for LG to take down sony and be the 1st in the industry....

For that case, I'm on the side of SONY.
'SONY, take down LG.... anyway there product suck... I work in a computer store, and LG product are crap. My friend work in a SuperMarket, and LG household appliance are crap also.

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# Thousands of PS3s confiscated in the Netherlands - Sony's statementWolfschramm 2011-03-10 14:05
this is ironic..haha, i mean..sony sues geohot because they thought what he was doing could affect them in an economic way, but look who screwed itself.. sony.. haha

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# RE: Thousands of PS3s confiscated in the NetherlandsCR0WN 2011-03-11 21:22
If this goes down for LG I'm never buy a product from that company again.

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