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New PSN User Agreements Going Out Today

Posted Feb 7, 2012 at 9:50AM EST by Brett Huffman

Listed in: News Tags: PlayStation Network, psn, psn tos, sen, sony entertainment network
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If you are a PlayStation Network member, then you have probably received an email in your inbox about the new Terms of Use and User Agreement that go along with Sony's decision to change the name of the PSN to the Sony Entertainment Network, or SEN. If you haven't checked your email or won't until after you sign into the PSN (or SEN...whatever), you'll be prompted to agree to the User Agreement, etc. if you want to continue using the network.

 

The email also explicitly states, "The re-branding of PlayStation Network accounts to Sony Entertainment Network accounts is a change in name only. Your username and password will not change, nor are we asking you to change them. On Sony Computer Entertainment's PlayStation 3 and PlayStation Vita systems, this re-branding will occur in connection with software updates for these services. (Note, this change will not be applied to the PSP (PlayStation Portable) system at this time.)

 

They like them some parentheses.

 

The slight changes to the Terms of Use are minor; things like covering Sony's butt when a minor uses the network, new content and "What's New" information, and the fact that your account is now called a Sony Entertainment Network account.

 

It's mostly legal gobbledygook and we all saw it coming, but it sure seems like it got here awfully quick.

 

 



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-2 # RE: New PSN User Agreements Going Out Todaybearmon2010 2012-02-07 12:43
I got it yesterday. I wont sign it anymore. Stupid PSN User Agreements.

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+4 # RE: RE: New PSN User Agreements Going Out Todaytruk 2012-02-07 14:35
Why? Have you read it?

I remember back in the day there was this one company who in their TOS had one line at the very end that said something along the lines that the first person to mail them saying they had read their TOS would get 500 bucks (I think it was more..). It was only years later that someone had sent them a letter asking for their money.

I doubt there is a line in there giving out money, but
the point is that you should probably at least skim the TOS seeing how you already spent the money for a ps3...just saying

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+1 # Give us Your Soul!Jackal 2012-02-07 16:05
Yeah, a gaming company once had a contract with their game and somewhere in the lines the user signed their soul to them. Of course people didn't read the whole contract and signed it to play. Can't remember what game though.

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# Final Fantasy OnlineITS ME MARIO !!!!!!! 2012-02-07 19:36
for the PS2,took forever to stop the subscription with the worst customer service (besides SONY),i had to call my credit card company to cancel the subscription.no more FFO anymore NO MORE!!!!!!!!

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+1 # RE: Give us Your Soul!AkaiOtoko 2012-02-07 20:22
lol, I think of this every time I accept a ToS...I wonder if I still have a soul. :P

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-2 # RE: New PSN User Agreements Going Out TodayAldo_P 2012-02-07 20:24
These user agreements are just the legal equivalent of saying Boo! I mean most of the crap they put in them now will get thrown out and laughed at if it ever gets contested in court, so all Sony does is make an example of a few people in court to scare you into line.

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+1 # RE: RE: New PSN User Agreements Going Out Todaytruk 2012-02-08 01:42
i would love to live in what ever world you live in to think like this...equivalent of saying boo..you cray cray

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-1 # RE: RE: RE: New PSN User Agreements Going Out TodayAldo_P 2012-02-08 11:03
You think including a clause saying you not allowed to sue them is ever gonna stand up in court? And do you really think Sony ever expected to win some of the cases they've brought lately? The fact is they win cases by out-spending people which scares people trying to sue them, and they include ridiculous things in their agreements because it's basically do as we say or else we'll remove your service, so yeah... Boo!

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# RE: RE: RE: RE: New PSN User Agreements Going Out Todaytruk 2012-02-09 00:49
you need to check your sources.. or just read the TOS to know that a person can still sue sony but only as an individual and not part of a class action suit.

what your describing contradicts your point. the fact that YOU just described that sony will pursue legal action against people who violate their terms is the exact opposite of a scare tactic.

you just dont like sony.

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# RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: New PSN User Agreements Going Out TodayAldo_P 2012-02-09 20:53
You've just strengthened my point further there. Class action suits exist because the law does recognise an individual can simply get bogged down in technicalities so the case can be stretched out and the side with the most money just out-spends you and wins that way, and that is part of Sony's M.O. and it is becoming standard practice for a lot of companies to put these completely wild clauses in their agreements now which are simply designed to scare you out of going to court, because first you have to prove that part of the agreement is illegal and only then can you get round to bringing action against them.

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# RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: New PSN User Agreements Going Out Todaytruk 2012-02-10 11:33
really?

let's review you points again:

1. cant sue sony
--we've already agreed that you can still sue sony. the fact that it is harder to do doesn't mean you can't

2. TOS=scare tactic
--it's not a scare tactic because sony is ready to take anyone to court.

"You think including a clause saying you not allowed to sue them is ever gonna stand up in court?"

vs.

"because first you have to prove that part of the agreement is illegal and only then can you get round to bringing action against them"

so will it hold up in court? if the answer is 'no', then why would anyone be afraid to take it to court?

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# RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: New PSN User Agreements Going Out TodayAldo_P 2012-02-10 13:52
do you even understand what scare means? If a Puppy barks and snarls you probably not gonna be scared, but if a huge Rotweiller does the same you know it has the potential of ripping your throat out, so the fact a company has a history of metaphorically ripping the throat out of people through legal action that's enough to scare individuals away from taking legal action, and that is why courts will never recognise any contract that says you won't take class action, i mean yeah the legal system in most countries is a bit fucked up but Class action is still basic right for most legal systems.

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# RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: New PSN User Agreements Going Out Todaytruk 2012-02-10 21:29
A scare tactic is scaring someone to prevent them from doing something with no intent of following through with the action.

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# RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: New PSN User Agreements Going Out TodayAldo_P 2012-02-11 12:28
No a scare tactic only works if you look willing or able to carry out your threat (Refer back to my puppy analogy) so a scare tactic from them carries more weight than say if some broke little corner shop wants to sue you.

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# RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: New PSN User Agreements Going Out Todaytruk 2012-02-12 15:17
ok

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