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Insomniac speaks out about Resistance 3's PSN Pass

Posted Jul 8, 2011 at 11:38PM EST by Mabie A.

Listed in: News, Games Tags: Insomniac Games, resistance 3, Sony

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Ever since news broke out that Sony is coming out with an online pass, which will be implemented on Resistance 3, many fans could not help but wonder as to what this truly means for their enjoyment of the game.

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With all the noise surrounding it, Insomniac Games could no longer keep their silence and has now spoken out in response to the violent reactions brought about by this new feature. Senior Community and Marketing Manager James Stevenson was put to the task, and left the following post on their official forums:

"If you buy R3 new, nothing will change and the PSN pass is free inside the box. There is no 'monthly fee'. More specifics when I can share."

Alright, so that really wasn't much of an explanation as we would have wanted, but at least they're saying something. They also left this message on their Twitter page to address threats of boycott of the game: "Not buying Resistance 3 hurts Insomniac more than Sony. Will you not buy any future Sony games?"

Resistance 3 is coming out exclusively on the PlayStation 3 on September 6th, 2011. It was only a couple of days back that Sony confirmed the veracity of the Online Pass, which allows first-time buyers to access the online multiplayer feature through a Redemption Code.

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Lets think about this for a minute. You buy a game, play it online and off, and then decide to get rid of it. The online community is made up of all the owners of the game. Now your local game resale shop sells the game only to find out that you have to pay to play online, which should be included in the game anyway for $60 fricken dollars. Now your online servers see less people in a shorter amount of time because the used game community doesn't pony up for the extra that the would have otherwise played. The lobbys are empty and they shut down the servers a year or 2 in advance of where they normally would. This is either a cost savings idea of squeeze more out of the die hard and save in the long run for online maintenance or the less for more approach that many game companies have been moving towards with micro transactions. They will be the death of their own product if it keeps up. Good move Sony and Insomniac. Keep giving reasons for hackers and pirates everywhere.

-1 # jh — smartguy 2011-07-09 14:07

u pay 60 ad already get to play online look at what it says, to much idiots now a days damn, theyre shouldnt be no complaints from no1 on this cuz if ur complainin ur the ones who buy used couple months later and dont help the comanys that work so hard to make a ggame for u to enjoy, stop actin dumb a online pass comes with every new game, u ppl who jus borrow to play or buy used aint helpin the company, so now they get real numbers and dont wounder why 7 million different ppl are registered online in a game but only sold 2. something million, common sense,
PEOPLE ARE SO SELFISH THESE DAYS AND IM NOT TALKIN THE COMPANY IM TALKIN PEOPLE WHO ARE ALWAYS COMPLAINING BOUT SONY, SONY HAS ALL RIGHT TO TREAT EVERYONE LIKE SHIT AFTER PPL LEFT PS3 AND DISRESPECTED SONY OVER THE HACK WAR WITH THEM, THEY DID WHATS RIGHT THEN, THEY GAME EVERYONE FREE GAMES AND PSN + AND PPL STILL COMPLAIN YALL NEED TO GROW UP DONT LIKE REALITY, WHICH DOESNT MAKE SENSE

# LoL — BlackDiamond 2011-07-09 02:19

Lol, all these games that been coming out, Medal of Honor, Bad Company 2 don't require a code to play online, but its optional. But Need For Speed Hot Pursuit made it mandatory, after a 24 hour trial, you buy an online pass. This is how Sony is making a quick buck off of you now. Online is free, but the gaming isn't. I'll support a boycott. We are hurting both Inso. and Sony's pockets. By not supporting, they will soon put an Online Pass on more and more games in the future witch will make renting games/borrowing games from friends impossible to enjoy.

-1 # The Blame Game — NotYou 2011-07-09 02:22

"Not buying Resistance 3 hurts Insomniac more than Sony."

Okay?... Well obviously. But Resistance makes it sound like it was Sony's decision to put this complicated feature in their game. I'm sure Resistance still makes the final decision, so they are to blame just as much as Sony.

# ?? — Teflon02 2011-07-09 14:18

DO YOU REALIZE
it comes with the damn game when u buy it, firstly, secondly, Online Pass not Whole Game Passthe main game is on the game free even if u borrow or get it used, they have to pay to keep online servers running and they dont make you pay, so they wanna make sure the dont have theyre servers over weight for nothing especially cuz those people are not buying the game anyways,
u get a code in the game jus like medal of honor, and if u wanna ever play online, you put the code in and your able to play online FOREVER and its already in the game package jus buy it new damn

# Yes I Realize — NotYou 2011-07-11 15:52

Wow! I understand that it cost to run servers, but that was not my point. I was stating how Insomniac played the sympathy card by distancing themselves from Sony.

I also find it funny how there have been quite a few games that went free to play online recently. Hummm...

Ya, ya vote my comment down, I know you don't understand, or think I don't understand.

-1 # RE: Insomniac speaks out about Resistance 3's PSN Pass — Ashido480 2011-07-09 03:42

Not a good enough answer, we still need to keep the same reactions and not fall for this "It's not our fault, its their's" crap, or they will literally walk all over us from here on out.

-2 # a — l 2011-07-09 04:03

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+2 # stuff it up us!!! — andy mac 2011-07-09 04:15

So sony now want online passess, if you buy a game from new like I do and play all aspects of it, once you have got platenum trophy if there's no DLC then it's time to re-coup some of your money by selling it on. In these days of austerity most people would do this anyway but then your punishing the second hand buyer for not buying new at the extortionate price we have to pay anyway.
We had "faith" in Sony when they went through their difficult phase when hacked and stayed loyal... is this the price we have to pay for a free month of PSN plus??
I don't buy games which have online pass system as I think it's wrong and only there to milk even more money out of joe public for in some instances a crappy game!!!

+1 # RE: Insomniac speaks out about Resistance 3's PSN Pass — christopher 2011-07-09 05:43

Sure it will hurt Insomniac more than Sony and its probably not Insomniac's fault as its often the publishers not the devs that incorporate these stupid passes.

On the other hand when will it be time to boycot? when all the good PS3 games need this pass?

we will need to show Sony (and publishers like EA) our disappointment of these type of online passes sooner rather than later.

p.s. if you don't know already, you can tell why I am like this if you read my comments on the other PSN pass topic.

+1 # RE: RE: Insomniac speaks out about Resistance 3's PSN Pass — lordrand11 2011-07-09 07:37

Quoting christopher:

Sure it will hurt Insomniac more than Sony and its probably not Insomniac's fault as its often the publishers not the devs that incorporate these stupid passes.

On the other hand when will it be time to boycot? when all the good PS3 games need this pass?

we will need to show Sony (and publishers like EA) our disappointment of these type of online passes sooner rather than later.

p.s. if you don't know already, you can tell why I am like this if you read my comments on the other PSN pass topic.

Couldn't agree with you more. Content driven dlc as well as the games give people a good enough reason to purchase these games. The moment they start including some kind of BS method similar to the old Serial Key system on the computer is the moment people stop caring for whatever you put out (Personally I feel this system works with computers but not Consoles).

# RE: RE: Insomniac speaks out about Resistance 3's PSN Pass — Teflon02 2011-07-09 14:23

Quoting christopher:

Sure it will hurt Insomniac more than Sony and its probably not Insomniac's fault as its often the publishers not the devs that incorporate these stupid passes.

On the other hand when will it be time to boycot? when all the good PS3 games need this pass?

we will need to show Sony (and publishers like EA) our disappointment of these type of online passes sooner rather than later.

p.s. if you don't know already, you can tell why I am like this if you read my comments on the other PSN pass topic.

makes sense what ur sayin, but remember this. how much did resistance 2 sell new games compared to people who've played online? ill tell you that about 4 times the sales played online. how are they goina run the servers if everyone is borrowing and selling the same game to each other? they development money? naw, devs need support to make games and if ur goina play theyre game and not support them by buying it atleast let it b a demo and not the full game

# RE: RE: RE: Insomniac speaks out about Resistance 3's PSN Pass — Snaku 2011-07-11 19:23

Quoting Teflon02:

how are they goina run the servers if everyone is borrowing and selling the same game to each other?

Um... what? I didn't realize that when you lend a game to a friend or sell it, that all of you can access the servers at the same time. No: one $60 copy of the game allows one person onto the servers at any given time, so used copies can't possibly increase server traffic. For every person who bought it used and is playing online, there's somebody who bought it new and isn't playing it online, so how can you argue that they're losing money?

The problem is that when they sell these games, which are supposed to allow you unlimited access to the servers, they're banking on the notion that you'll play it for a few months and then never touch it again, so, while you've paid for unlimited access, you've only cost them for two months worth. It's sensible enough, but they simply need to accept that it's not always going to work like that. If you really want to make more money off a game, instead of screwing over your customers, why don't you make a better game so that people won't want to wait until used copies are available and they won't want to sell their copies to the used market. I've got several games that I bought when they first came out and that I'll never sell because they're just that good, but the games that are just ok, I'll buy used and then sell 'em when I'm done.

-1 # RE: RE: Insomniac speaks out about Resistance 3's PSN Pass — Teflon02 2011-07-09 14:24

Quoting Ma2ews:

if your buying it new, so that insomniac actually benefit from your purchase,then nothing is different for you so why boycott. if your buying it second hand so that only the shop benefit then at least some money is going to the people that have worked so hard to bring you a game you want to play. i dont see the problem.

thank you one person who understands the concept

-1 # RE: RE: Insomniac speaks out about Resistance 3's PSN Pass — Teflon02 2011-07-09 14:31

your doin exactly what the issue is why they are doin this. your goina play a game and pass around to friends, wheres dev or sony profit. no they are actually losing money (literally not makin less) actually losing money cuz there are how many extra people registered online and they stand at the same amout of buys in a game, they need profit to survive. its a big company not jus a friends hobby

# RE: RE: RE: Insomniac speaks out about Resistance 3's PSN Pass — christopher 2011-07-10 05:39

No, you guys aren't getting the point. probably because you never read my last comments, what I'm trying to say is... maybe its better if I say something like:

To me its not about the pre-owned games, I only own two (stuntman and WET) because I agree with what you guys are saying [buy new so devs can use the money to keep servers running]. Its because In my household there are two PS3's one for me and one for my brother, both PS3's have the same accounts on but if one of us buys a game with these type of codes on and types in the code, that code is unique to that PSN ID so the other won't be able to play online unless they use the one with the code's account (thus no trophies or individual online "level up").

"They" could add multiple uses of the codes but that would keep the problem they are avoiding. What I think they should do for these type of codes is to have it type in as a redeem code on the PSN store which will download a file (some sort of unlock thing like you can get for game trials) so that you can "gameshare" this download with up-to-5 (I think that's how much game sharing can go up to) PS3's.

by the way; for people thinking I'm going to boycot Resistance 3, I'm not. I wasn't going to buy the game anyway (good game, just not for me).

-1 # RE: Insomniac speaks out about Resistance 3's PSN Pass — Ma2ews 2011-07-09 06:41

if your buying it new, so that insomniac actually benefit from your purchase,then nothing is different for you so why boycott. if your buying it second hand so that only the shop benefit then at least some money is going to the people that have worked so hard to bring you a game you want to play. i dont see the problem.

-1 # Nothing New — aramisathei 2011-07-09 08:05

I hate the concept of online passes as much as anyone else, but uh... PC has been doing this for over a decade (CD-KEYs/account key, anyone?).

Much as people might hate it, it's already proven an effective business model, so we might as well prepare to get used to it for Sony too. Not like they'd change their minds to support their fan base - they gotta find some way to squeeze a little more out of us first.

+1 # online pass — crestfllen 2011-07-09 08:08

I agree also but, what worries me most is they said the online pass would allow online play for one account on your system which is BS. so, I have to pay an extra 10 dollars per account just so all my system accounts can play said game online?. I for one normally buy my games by splitting the price with my bro and thats seems a little stupid.

+2 # skipping this game!! — eromack718 2011-07-09 08:36

as a guy who shares his games with friends and family and likes to take games over to a friends house to show off and get my friends to buy the same game's that i have an online pass just makes it harder to take your game everywhere you go and cannot be passed down once im done playing it ..

ps: im skipping this game like i skipped battlfield and i skipped meadal of honor..

-1 # RE: skipping this game!! — tonto 2011-07-09 10:03

and spelling class....

lolololololol

-1 # HAHAHAHA!!! — Laughing guy 2011-07-09 12:15

I almost died laughing at this

# RE: skipping this game!! — MartiniMan 2011-07-09 11:27

If it's attached to your account and you set up your account on your friend's system, you should be able to demo it to them.

-1 # RE: Insomniac speaks out about Resistance 3's PSN Pass — MartiniMan 2011-07-09 11:22

How is this milking MORE money out of the gamer? Someone bought a USED game, meaning, the money to Insomniac and Sony was already done and they won't see another penny of it for that copy, for LESS of a price than a new copy and to play the game online you now pay a fee. You're probably breaking even then for the money saved by buying it used.

If someone is just renting it to see how the online portion is, they probably wouldn't have been part of the online community anyway so I doubt it hurts their server population. And if they really liked Resistance they would have bought a new copy. So who really are the ones calling for the boycott?

I buy news, I buy used and I rent games, and I understand that I'm putting an unfair load on the servers for someone who didn't support their game as a full purchase and I have NO issue with either buying the game if I like it or paying for the online pass. If these companies that make these freakin' awesome games gain a little more cash for the hard work, long hours and dedication to my experience, then I'm absolutely all for it.

With that said, it's now time for the GameStops of the world to step up and offer the used game for less to compensate for the online pass system that will surely be in every game in the future.

# Okay then — BobFred 2011-07-10 05:21

WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU HAVE TO SPEND THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY ON A USED GAME AS YOU WOULD IF IT WAS BRAND NEW? THATS STUPID AS FUCK! CD KEYS WERE STUPID. THIS IS STUPID. ANYTHING EVEN REMOTELY LIKE THIS IS STUPID. THERES A REASON SONY LET PEOPLE SHARE DIGITAL DATA TO UP TO 5 PEOPLE. THESE COMPANIES ARE GETTING GREEDY! SOMEONE BUYS A NEW GAME, GETS TIRED OF IT, AND DECIDES TO SELL IT. THE PERSON WHO BUYS IT USED DOESNT CONTRIBUTE TO THE COMPANY WHO MADE THE GAME...DUH, THE PERSON WHO SOLD IT DID. ONE GAME IS STILL ONE GAME! ITS NOT LIKE THE PERSON WHO SOLD IT STILL HAS THE GAME! INSOMNIAC SHOULDNT GIVE A FUCK IF JOE BOUGHT IT AND SOLD IT TO JOHN. FOR ALL THEY KNOW JOHN WAS THE ORIGINAL BUYER OF THAT SHIT! THEY STILL MADE THEIR 60 DOLLARS. IF JOHN WANTED A NEW COPY HE'D BUY A FUCKING NEW COPY. THIS SHIT IS HORRIBLE. NOW YOURE FORCING JOHN TO BUY THE GAME NEW AND YOURE FORCING JOE TO LET THIS SHIT COLLECT DUST UNDER HIS TV. SHIT THEY MAY EVEN BE MAKING JOE CONSIDER BUYING THIS BITCH IN THE FIRST PLACE IF HE KNOWS HE WONT BE ABLE TO SELL IT. WHY THE FUCK DO YOU THINK BMW'S ARE SO POPULAR? THEY RETAIN THEIR VALUE. AS SOON AS YOU BUY A GAME WITH THESE KINDS OF LIMITATIONS, THE GAME IS WORTH SHIT TO ANYBODY ELSE, WHICH IN TURN MAKES IT WORTH SHIT TO YOU UNLESS YOU PLAN ON PLAYING IT FOREVER.

THIS WHOLE ORDEAL IS GARRRRBAAAAGE.

+1 # RE: Insomniac speaks out about Resistance 3's PSN Pass — nope 2011-07-09 14:48

i was planning on buying this game but idk now because this is just a way to squeeze another few dollars into sonys pockets what if i wanted to go to a friends house with this game or what about a local game shop of flea market selling these types of games then the consumer finds out when he gets home he has to pay a extra 10 bucks to play online ill just stick to resistance 2 for now because this is total bs

+1 # I also... — dbizal 2011-07-09 14:53

Think this is a stupid idea.

They don't lose much money wise because if you actually think about it, to have a second hand game, someone must have actually bought it in the first place.

Someone like me who has very little income cannot buy the majority of these new games each time one comes out, so the only option for me is to buy second hand. So why should I suffer and not be able to enjoy the full experience? Because I need to live...? Because I haven't got a well paying job? No! Its not because of that... its because these companies ( I don't actually believe its anything to do with Sony ), decide to put this pass in because they want more money...

so what if I bought a brand new game for £40/50 and I find that the game actually has more content on and I need to pay extra just to unlock what was already on the disc...? Same rule applies as above.
I pay for a game whether it be Brand new or second hand and I expect it to have all of its contents so I can enjoy it.

I actually miss the days where you could buy a game or a console and do what the hell you wanted to do with it...

+1 # "Not buying Resistance 3 hurts Insomniac more than Sony. Will you not buy any future Sony games?" — xfrostx 2011-07-09 15:54

Well, if they want my money, they will need to start putting games on something other than sony consoles. I will be getting R3 but only after I can get a used copy from gamestop so that sony does not get any of my money.

# RE: Insomniac speaks out about Resistance 3's PSN Pass — theamslergrid 2011-07-09 18:42

I think that if you pay for ps plus you should be able to play anyways because if your already paying for online access you shouldn't have to pay twice if you rent games. That's just plain stupid

+1 # RE: RE: Insomniac speaks out about Resistance 3's PSN Pass — Reefer 2011-07-10 01:59

PlayStaion Plus isn't for online access. It's for discounts, free games, early demo/beta access and so on. PSN is FREE for online. So, I don't know how you would be paying twice. 0 x 2 = 0

-1 # >.> — mastershake420 2011-07-09 23:24

btw for medal of honor online pass was a add-on battlefield had account pass i have dif accounts and i was able to use that pass same went for dead space 2 add-on to use the multiplayer i wouldnt complain much im also a new and second hand buyers with games i dont really see the issue with a online pass complain wen u have to pay a fee monthly then u can bish all u want its a game monstly the ppl who complain are those who are too cheap or dont want to wait till they have the full money to buy the game that why there pre orders u go and pay little by little even if a game 4 months away by the day it come out u have it paid off its not hard to go and put cash down for a pre order unless ure super lazy lol

# RE: Insomniac speaks out about Resistance 3's PSN Pass — Reefer 2011-07-10 01:55

I don't get why people get up in arms about online passes. Alot of the times if you buy a game used in the first couple weeks r so. you save a whole $5. Dev's and Publshers get no money for used sales or rentals. So, If say 200,000 people rent, burrow, or buy used. that's $12 mil lost to the companies. less after retail's chunk. games cost a lot of money to make and they need to make a profit to make more. From what I heard about this Online pass. It's not even for online play but for extra content.

# Ah well — C2 2011-10-17 04:54

How can you count money never received as money lost. Sounds like corporate greed to me.

-1 # I buy all my PS3 games new — houaruto 2011-07-10 02:46

mothing is free in this world...No one here seems to care about anyone else but their own a$$. Its not like you can't trade it in anymore. What Sony is doing will not affect me or anyone who actually buys the game at launch at all. There is nothing wrong on putting a lock on your product when you know people will alway find a way to cheat you out. Its about time Sony grew a brain in them skulls.

If you wanna complain then complain about crap like COD Elite where they will literally milk your wallet dry just because they can.

# Ah well — C2 2011-10-17 04:51

Arguments like this have no merit. Let's see how "locked" their product will be when they stay at #3 in the gaming industry. Idiots like this are why greedy companies are able to thrive.

# Fuck you Sony! — Crazy 2011-08-06 15:19

WTF!? I buy all my games new but I don't pay full price though because $60 is too much. Sony just wants to milk customers for money with an online pass. Because of this, I am boycotting Resistance 3. I'm also boycotting Insomniac Games, and even Sony games. I'm just not intrested buying their games at this time. Sony and Insomniac have completely turned their backs on the whole PlayStation 3 coummunity. Sony is about lose more customers because of the online pass. Oh, and the Welcome Back Package was a complete DISGRACE to the PlayStation 3 community PlayStation Plus is pathetic because you're being RIPPED OFF for nothing!!! Sony should be ashamed of themselves because they should have given us PSN credits instead, but no, they did not. To tell you the truth, I'm not gonna be buying anymore PS3 games becuase of Sony's bullshit! Fuck anyone who says online passes are a good thing! Sony, you've just lost a customer! I'm offically done with PlayStation 3 for good!!!

# As of today — Crazy 2011-08-06 20:08

As of today, I will boycott any game that has online pass epscecially Resistance 3.

# Don't support them!!! — Crazy 2011-08-07 19:31

DLC: Don't buy DLC (Downloadable Content) from companies that release low quality games or games with errors and glitches until they fix them! If you support them by buying DLC they will continue to release lower and lower quality games and try to sell more and more DLC!

Games with online passes: Don't buy games that have online passes from companies! If you support them buy buying games with online passes, they will continue to release more and more games that have online passes!

Greed has taken over the gaming industry, it's up to us to say no! All the professional reviewers are being payed! You've been warned!

# Ah well — C2 2011-10-17 04:49

Let's see, should I pay $10 a game for each one I rent or buy used, or go to a system that at charges what? five to ten dollars monthly for broad access. Sucks for them; the PS3's lost shall be the Xbox 360's, and Wii U's advantage. Maybe they'll learn once they begin teetering on the brink of collapse. Guess they forgot how shrewd and savvy most real gamers are.

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