Blogcritics on why U.S. PS3 will lose backward compatibility |
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According to Blogcritics' writer Mark Buckingham, Sony Computer of America (SCEA) has indeed removed backward compatibility on U.S. 80GB systems, effectively throwing U.S. PS3 owners into the same boat as their European counterparts. In his article posted in Blogcritics, the Emotion Engine used in launch consoles (and enabled PS1 and PS2 games to run on the PS3) was eschewed in favor of software emulation for the newer 80GB PS3 units that will eventually replace the 60GB SKUs available in the market today. Sony's official reason for dropping backward compatibility on the PS3 is to concentrate on new games, new content both on the PS3 as well as PlayStation Network.
Buckingham was disappointed in the fact that Sony chose to focus more on delivering better content on its current system, in the expense of taking out an existing feature to lower costs. With PS3 SKUs that have the Emotion Engine already phased out, or will be eventually phased out in favor of the Emotion-less 80GB SKUs - there is no escaping from the newer non-backwards compatible PS3s. There is still hope though, as PS2 compatibility can still be attained through software updates.
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What the *****? Are you retarded? They are not taking out the fu**ing backwards compability, but the Emotion Engine. THAT allows the console to UPSCALE and SMOOTH the output. Since Firmware 1.8 or 1.9 EVERY PS3 IN THE WHOLE WORLD IS DOING THIS, regardless of it having an outdated Emotion Engine or not. Sally B., please crawl back under your rock and stay there until you are intelligent enough to write NEWS and not just such *****. How can one "blogger" be so incredibly stupid? Damn....
I have an Europeran version of a PS3 and I have no problems what so ever.
Have a European Ps3 and have little too no problems with the BC. it's not gone it's very there..
The article title is a bit misleading, especially for those guys who dont read the actual article, please change this.
How is this news? We already know that Sony are taking the EE out of the 80GB SKU to save money. Fewer chips = lower cost. Makes sense. We know that backward compatibility can be done well in software, and for those people that have a massive library of PS2 games and need 100% compatibility, what happened to their PS2? Did they smash it the day the PS3 was released? We already knew the SKUs using the EE are being phased out in favor of the cheaper SKUs. Sony would be stupid not to do this (shall we continue selling the SKU that's losing us more money, or change over to a cheaper one?) In other news, water found to be wet. "We'll bring you more updates on this as they come, so be sure to check back." I'm hitting F5 right now in case I miss a juicy morsel of this breaking news!!!
The original article specifically says the PS3's losing 'HARDWARE-based' BC. Software-based is still very much backwards compability. This article fails.
san andreas is combatible?
thats true, when you choose upscaling and/or smoothing the playstation will use the software emulation... the emotion enginge chip is just obsolete...
They arent doing away with backwards compatibility as a whole, just removing a hardware chip to lower costs and replacing what the hardware chip does with software updates. They're basically going to do the same thing the Xbox 360 does, release a group of backwards compatible games every now and again via updates instead of having a chip (the EE) do it.
στα αρχιδια μου για τα παιχνιδια του ps2 εδω ερχονται GTAIV killzone 2,ut3, και θα καθομαι να ασχολουμαι με το ps2... αμα θελω να παιξω παιχνιδια του ps2 τα βαζω στο ps2 και παιζω... καλα κανει η sony μηπος πεσει η τιμη του ps3
sony feel they must have their emulation softwarecovering a huge range of games, and feel there is no need for the hardware, and with continued updates for bc support, things are only getting better.
So if its to lower costs, then why cant they pass it on to the consumer? *****es! Instead they jack the console back up and try to make up for it with 20gb more space! We dont want space as much as a lower priced unit!!!!! ***** Sony, get your f'n act together! But maybe they are trying to recoup the costs of lawyers because other *****es keep suing Sony's ass! And Microsoft isnt much better with them coming out with a million SKUs and with half of them breaking! ***** Im tired of these consoles already. I want to go back to when they just played games instead of emptying our wallets!! Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo; They are all *****es!
Standard QJ BullSh-i-t... this article is a waste of bandwidth.
The only reason Sony is going to drop the price of the PS3 is to nab up more users cuz the machine is costing them way more to build than they actually sell it for and thus removing the EE chip which won't amount to a huge a savings on their part doesn't provoke a price cut. If they cut stuff out and streamline the production enough to slash off $200 or so off of the original price of producing the console THEN you'll see a price cut. M$ are greedy *****s who'd much rather have their hardware out there and breaking than spend the time fixing it up so it works. You aren't going to get consoles for $100 when they're released, back when previous consoles shipped people thought the prices were insane and overtime... we've got stuff like $80 GCs and $100 PS2s.
QJ are word twisting malicious basterds, who go out to diss the PS3 name. I have a euro PS3 and BC is fine for me.
Maybe they make more money by the amount of hits a blog gets. Thats one way to do it.
Unfortunatly, I have to agree with jroder. This generation of gaming is not really gaming, but more of a competition of who sells more and who makes more. I am a Sony Fanboy, and I really do dislike X360, but still Sony should be considered the 1st best. Think about it. They still support PS2-PSP-PS3 at the same time. Microsoft has X360-Halo-Halo-Halo3.. sorrry, i forgot Halo! nintento has DS-Wii. So Sony stands tall above all while getting sued every day with some BS out of nowhere!
FU CK YOU QJ! You Fuc King 360 fanboys!
Again another article against the PS3 !!! QJ, you start to upset us !!! By the way, I got a PS3 to mainly play PS3 games ! PS2 games run also very well even when simulating... So waht is your PROBLEM ???
I'm impressed - a post in which you did not bash the PS3 without reason, but you actually went ahead and posted something informative. Kudos to you!
Go Wii, it pwns all
I'm impressed Axoxomamoxoa. For the first time in history you have posted a useful and unbiased comment. This is how comments are supposed to be like.
Upscaling ftw...F the EE. Don't you noobs remember how crappy the emulation was on the PS3? It wasn't even as good as the PS2 counterpart. So. RAWR
They are not removing BC, just the emotion engine. BC will be done through software. QJ sucks, hard...
Sony actually did a decent job getting PS1 and PS2 games to work without the emotion engine. But still, you lose 100% compatibility since the PS3 no longer has the actual PS2 hardware inside. I guess it's not a huge deal, but would be nice being able to play all PS2 games perfectly without issues. Sony lied, the real reason for removing the EE chip is to save money, not to concentrate on new games and the PSN. I guess they still concentrating on new games, maybe half assed like.
Well, first of all, i agree with how they made PS1 and PS2 games work without EE, but again you keep calling every game they make half assed without actually playing them yourself. Are you going to let reviews make the judge? What about Xbox 360's backward compatibility? There's only like 400 games that work and still you haven't mentioned anything about it. Stop bashing the PS3. You will blindly defend the Xbox no matter what. Like i've said a thousand times, if the Xbox is so great, why don't you play it instead of making irrelivant comments?
Ooooooookay.....
Software emulation on the PS3 is 100% PSone titles and 88%+ for PS2 titles. No way in hell is that "losing backwards compatibility". People, you have to be more sympathetic... to work at QJ.net you only need to have minimum-wage level cut and paste skills. You don't need a brain, you don't need to think. These dullards have no skills to get a real job, let alone in real journalism, so they supplement their monthly welfare checks by being trolls with this blog. How else are the semi-retarded expected to eat? So cut 'n paste your biased nonsense QJ.net.... and try not to drool over yourselves in the process.
this is the second stupidest article in QJ history.
Me too. I also have an Euro version and BC works fine for me.
name a better site ?
That is the most logical/non-biased statement you've made thus far. Have a cookie buddy or hit me up on myspace.
Before yelling at people please educate yourself. The EE (or Emotion Engine) is actually the cpu (MIPS + 2xVPU). The GS is the graphics chip. Looks like they can emulate the EE now with the CELL. This has nothing to do with upscaling. This is simply a post render process, which actually has nothing to do with the PS2 at all, but (I suppose) uses the CELL again to scale and smoothen the image on the fly on a per frame update into the framebuffer (my guess). (I guess to use the cell for post processing rather then the RSX - which also could do the scaling).
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