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GDC Rant 2: ‘You’re Not A Producer’

Posted Mar 10, 2012 at 10:30PM EST by Mr Ham

Listed in: PSP Tags: christina norman, Game Developers Conference, GDC, rant
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One thing I like about developers giving rants is that it’s usually a tad more insightful than Youtubers. Like this rant at the GDC from ex-BioWare employee Christina Norman at the GDC, where she said that Mass Effect 3’s day-one DLC isn't a bad idea; it’s necessary.

 

Gamers complained a lot about the day-one DLC, but Christina says that ‘there’s no point in releasing DLC a year after your game has come out when most people have already sold your game back to GameStop three times’. Fair point. ‘That means getting it out early’, she says, but that gamers ‘rant’ and they ‘’know nothing about the DLC that’s coming out except its name’ and thus conclude that the game ‘must be incomplete’ and ‘ruined’. Fair point.

 

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She then goes on to say developers just want to release awesome stuff and to judge it for what it is, and that gamers should ‘stop thinking’ they are producers and telling us where and when they should build their content. Fair point, but I disagree that telling gamers not to complain when they have an issue is a bit unintuitive; telling gamers to be happy when they’re not just because they’re the consumer definitely won’t progress systems forward.

 

What’s your views on her…views?



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# RE: GDC Rant 2: ‘You’re Not A Producer’thed00d 2012-03-10 22:54
most people wait to buy the cheaper GOTY edition with all dlc. if its day one dlc just put it on the disc, nobody wants 8 hours of gameplay then for $15 you get an extra hour or two and so on. i sure do miss the old days.

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# RE: GDC Rant 2: ‘You’re Not A Producer’Scott2012 2012-03-10 23:11
Well, it's their marketing scheme and if the DLC is ready, it's ready.

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+3 # ...ptspyder 2012-03-11 07:19
And if the DLC is ready before the game even came out, it isn't DLC. Its omitted content or "on disc" DLC. This is like buying a new pair of shoes and getting charged extra to get some laces. Its ripping your consumer base off, plain and simple, and there is no excuse for it.

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# RE: RE: GDC Rant 2: ‘You’re Not A Producer’Goblins 2012-03-11 17:12
It's like not a person remembers gears 3 at all.. Same thing, deal with it.

In my opinion she needs to go on slim fast and not bark at the consumers. :-x

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+2 # RE: GDC Rant 2: ‘You’re Not A Producer’AkaiOtoko 2012-03-10 23:58
"there’s no point in releasing DLC a year after your game has come out when most people have already sold your game back to GameStop three times"

[rant]

This doesn't justify day one DLC.

The recent day one DLC's have mostly given things that you would normally unlock for free in-game by things like beating the game, finding secret areas, doing certain missions, etc.

That's not what DLC should be.

It should:

1. add to an old game's play time.
2. make gamers want to play the game again.
3. be fun and well made.
4. be something the developer feels that they want to put in a game that wasn't previously thought of.

Without it doing these things, DLC only serves to burden the gamers, while companies get rich from gamers' disappointment.

DLC isn't refundable, and with the used games most likely soon gone;
Saying that the game just gets sold after being played, so later DLC is useless, is an excuse without reason.

Also, perhaps the games wouldn't be sold back so much if new versions weren't released every year.

[/rant]

Sorry for my rant being longer than the one in the article. :-*

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# In Defense of Day 1/0 DLC...if it's free.Lonfyre 2012-03-11 05:05
I can support Day 1 and Day 0 DLC, but only in the case that it's free. The way I can defend this kind of DLC is that in some cases, a game either may have to be rushed out because of impatient investors/producers, or that a deadline wont be able to be met and the DLC may contain content that can help the game go along but not be REQUIRED. Of course, these DLCs only work if they don't exist on the disc already (looking at you Capcom) and the reason for their lack of existence is because the discs have gone to print.

Seriously, dropping an extra $20 on top of the game's cost the day it hits shelves is kinda stupid.

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+4 # RE: GDC Rant 2: ‘You’re Not A Producer’Husband 2012-03-11 17:02
And this is why she belongs in the kitchen.

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# RE: GDC Rant 2: ‘You’re Not A Producer’Goblins 2012-03-11 21:28
Here's my final answer on this thing. All the producers for mass effect 3 thought this..

"Instead of forking out $2 per every $15 download in fees, why don't we just put it on the disc, still charge $15 for the license and only have to pay $0.30 per sale."

And since christy took a few dumptrucks of cash and shares, she's blasting us for being mad. She's trying to shove that dlc down any none believers throat. I hope she does something illegal and gets caught, fraud or taking more money prematurely, would be no surprise, she's soooooooooooooo o greedy and shouldn't be in gaming. once again :-x

Hey Christina Norman, stop being such a bitch.

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# RE: GDC Rant 2: ‘You’re Not A Producer’G. Sugarman 2012-03-12 01:42
I'd hit that... but pull out before she got to make her O face. Then I'd charge her extra to finish.

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# RE: GDC Rant 2: ‘You’re Not A Producer’MickeyB 2012-03-13 11:43
Some people don't realize that a game isn't finished right before release date. It's usually a month or 2 before release, if not more.

Now fresh off of finishing the last project, they probably don't have anything else to work on, so it makes sense to work on DLC.

I see no problem with the devs continuing work on a game after they finish it.
Now say a game is delayed just to put extra content. Unless they have another project, they're most likely going to do the same thing and work on more DLC while the stuff is fresh in their mind. Might as well pump that stuff out early.

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# I agree completelyAlpha7 2012-03-13 11:50
She's talking from a producer's point of view.

If they keep delaying a game just to put extra content or ideas they've had in, the game will never get released.

Most of the time when a game gets delayed it isn't because of content, it's because of performance.

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+1 # RE: RE: GDC Rant 2: ‘You’re Not A Producer’AkaiOtoko 2012-03-13 19:36
People found it already on the disc...

You can apparently unlock it by changing a line of text. >_>

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+1 # It's Simple ReallyJoeBlow 2012-03-14 20:21
Stop buying the games and they will get the message. Buy the game in droves and then complain about it and they laugh all the way to the bank.

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