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PoV: Is Sony removing another PS3 feature?

Posted Jul 13, 2011 at 6:00PM EST by Carl B

Listed in: PS3 Tags: other os, Sony
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Reports suggest that Sony is removing yet another feature from PlayStation 3. Is this one a big deal?

 

Kotaku is reporting that retailers were told by Sony that the 160GB PlayStation 3 SKU will no longer be able to transmit HD images through a component cable.

 

This means that in order to play games in HD, gamers will need to pick up a proper HDMI cable. Future PS3 models will have the same changes, while current models will still be component cable compatible.

 

Removing component cable support really isn’t a big deal at all, but I’m sure some people will be upset about it, and then proceed to hack their PS3 in order to get the feature to work once again. I also fully suspect that some PS3 owners will say that they bought the PS3 specifically for component cable support, thus giving them the right to hack their device, much like the Other OS debacle that took place recently.

 

Still, it’s certainly interesting as to why Sony would remove component cables support from PS3.

 

How do you view Sony’s recent removal of PS3 features? Sound off in the comment section below and be sure to continue the discussion on our community forums.

 

UPDATE: It seems that only Bluray playback will be affected by this.



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+1 # RE: PoV: Is Sony removing another PS3 feature?Darron 2011-07-13 19:06
I use HDMI anyway so...meh.

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+10 # Games can still be in HD not blu-ray moviesLLeg3nd 2011-07-13 19:08
Hi Carl,

I read somewhere else that you can still play games in HD but not view Blu-ray Movies in HD through Component Cables. Here's the link: http://bit.ly/pnmkUO

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+8 # RE: Games can still be in HD not blu-ray moviesPhane 2011-07-13 19:17
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2011/07/sony-explains-new-ps3-hdmi-required-for-hd-video-only-not-games.ars

Only effects Blu-ray playback, not streaming or games. It's because of a new DRM standard that they are complying with.

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-7 # RE: RE: Games can still be in HD not blu-ray moviesCarl B 2011-07-13 19:48
Thanks for that, the CVG story I read said that games could not be played.

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+5 # RE: Games can still be in HD not blu-ray moviescrait 2011-07-14 01:50
You are smart. If he had the link to the Kotaku article he referenced, it would be easier to get updated information. Glad you brought it to his attention and I'm glad you posted it so others can have it, as well.

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+3 # RE: PoV: Is Sony removing another PS3 feature?reza666 2011-07-13 19:22
If your tv dont have HDMI by now its time to upgrade :)

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-4 # RE: PoV: Is Sony removing another PS3 feature?DeltaDAWG 2011-07-13 19:25
Those comments are spot on Carl!

At any rate, I suspect (as LLeg3nd mentioned) that this is in regards to BD playback and only affects 1080p.

This is becoming an industry standard and actually has nothing to do with Sony. The industry doesn't want SOME 1080p to be supported on component while others are not when it comes to high bandwidth applications such as 3D.

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# Component gonesqueeks 2011-07-13 19:40
I read that all blu-ray players built after Dec 2010 will not have the ability to play HD over component connections. Some companies will remove them all together. This is not just Sony.

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# no biggieChurchx 2011-07-13 19:49
HDMI cables are not expensive on the internet
i bought mine for 59p which is about 25cents

but i am worried tht sonny are taking things away and not adding new features

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# RE: PoV: Is Sony removing another PS3 feature?7x 2011-07-13 19:59
hdmi's cord's only cost 10$ an up plus if PS makes more games n 1080 not say 720 is jus trash but if i have a 1080flat. an only maybe 2% games r n 720 on the ps3 i think,hopefully PS isn't jus takin that feature only 4 hack'n. but a hackers hack they'll try 2 figure out sumthing. if u think about it not everybody who has a ps3 has a hdmi tv or flat,in sum ways PS is forcing people 2 buy a curtain type of tv to play there console once again sony u really hurting urself u r monopolizing how people game.

lets say they figure a way how 2 do the same thing with hdmi's then what. a feature taken away 4nothin unless PS is up 2 sumthing else.

jus like netflicks they got alot of people on there now they want u 2 pay separate for streaming movies 7.99$ an if u want dvd's n the mail 1 for 7.99$ a month netflicks took a bundle features for 1 price now its 14$ a month 2 have bot wtf we r really getting pimp'd

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# omgdbzking181994 2011-07-13 21:12
have all this gaming news site become stupid or ignorant at least read some stuff before making stupid posts its not freaking sony removing another sh0t

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+5 # I'm tired...crait 2011-07-13 22:02
I'm tired of your anti-Sony piece of shit POV articles, Carl B. You post like every little bit with WiiU. You took one article from IGN and made 4 articles out of it over a few days time. We get it, you are all into Nintendo consoles and you have very little faith in Sony.
Yeah, you added a little UPDATE at the end of your article, but it was one line. You really would have loved for this whole story to be true... You really would have. It's only future models and HDMI cables are $5 for 6 ft.

Oh, and by the way, good job CITING again. You said Kotaku posted something, but you didn't link to it. The only link you posted to was the shitty Qj.net forums. This article is horrible. Worse than the others that you plagiarized earlier this week. Even after adding the UPDATE to the end of your article, you did not cite where you got your information from.

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+4 # AgreeWell_is_not_me 2011-07-13 22:52
That guy is a lame worker, QJ u should review on that man...

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+4 # RE: I'm tired...AssassinXCV 2011-07-14 00:58
FUCK YOU CARL B!

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-6 # RE: I'm tired...DeltaDAWG 2011-07-14 01:57
Then stop reading them. It's so easy a caveman could do it.

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+5 # RE: RE: I'm tired...crait 2011-07-14 02:07
DeltaDAWG, Sony makes a very high-quality product that I appreciate. They offer free services and I enjoy it. Whenever people like Carl B. have access to posting news stories like this and they are obviously posting things just to make people mad and partially lying to them, I feel like it's my duty to try to clear up the confusion.
I'm not telling him to stop his shit for you. I'm doing it for me. If you aren't bothered by his fanboy-ism, then that doesn't mean I have to be. If you're able to ignore him, why can't you ignore me. You get on every day and thumb down my comments, even whenever I agree with someone that you thumb up. You're an ignorant fool and you allow Carl B.'s lies to be spread.

Now, I like the PS3 and it's not just because I own one. And even if I didn't like the PS3, I would still clear up the confusion that Carl B. is perpetually trying to create. I hate that it has come to this, but whenever someone is posting wrong things on a news site, even if they are POV articles, they are still posting them as facts when they are not. I don't support this kind of factless bologna, but if you can resist getting so upset with it, then I don't see why you don't resist getting upset with me.

Simple as that.

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+4 # RE: RE: RE: I'm tired...Bleep 2011-07-14 02:22
Well said

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-4 # RE: RE: RE: I'm tired...DeltaDAWG 2011-07-14 12:17
I don't care if Carl hated the PS3 with all his soul. Just because someone doesn't see eye to eye with you about something is no reason to rant and attempt to negate their freedom of speech. He has just as much of a right to hate the PS3 as you have a right to love the PS3.

You say you are doing something for you. Well guess what? This site is NOT FOR YOU. It's for all of us and myself, like these articles. So if you do not like his articles then quit acting like a damn child about it, grow the hell up and do the adult thing....DON'T READ THEM.

Either way, neither of us know how he feels about the PS3. So quit ASSuming crap.

"but if you can resist getting so upset with it, then I don't see why you don't resist getting upset with me."

Because on one hand we have Carl giving his opinion and on another hand we have you acting like a damn child. One is acceptable, one is not.

"If you're able to ignore him, why can't you ignore me."

As always you can't even follow along with what's going on. Why would I ignore him? Clearly you are lost.

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+6 # RE: RE: RE: RE: I'm tired...crait 2011-07-14 15:18
Negate his freedom of speech?
I'm clearing up the confusion he makes with his lies.
How is that trying to negate his freedom of speech?

And no, he doesn't like the PS3. He says it quite often. I can tell because I read every article on this site.
What makes you think this site was made for you and not me? What makes you think this site isn't for anyone who wants to come here and read the articles?
Whenever he lies, it's annoying and gets people mad. He tells people things that are simply not true.



And like I said, it's not about if he likes the PS3 or not.

He's lying and it's wrong to do so.

That's what I can't ignore.

Not his opinions.

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-7 # RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: I'm tired...SuddenImpact 2011-07-14 15:39
"I'm clearing up the confusion he makes with his lies."

Now THAT'S a lie. Nothing about these quotes is you trying to uncover a LIE:

"I'm tired of your anti-Sony piece of shit POV articles"

"You post like every little bit with WiiU"

"You took one article from IGN and made 4 articles out of it over a few days time."

That's nothing but whinning and crying and over nothing. What part of my original comment did you not understand? If you don't like his articles or his opinions or his quanity of Nintendo then quit reading them. Yet, like some kind of lemming you continue to read his articles and you continue to get pissed off.

Personaly, I find it hilarious!

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-7 # RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: I'm tired...DeltaDAWG 2011-07-14 15:53
Ugh, I gotta hurry up and fix my kids laptop. I hate when people use my machine...

That last reply was me.

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+6 # RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: I'm tired...crait 2011-07-14 15:58
Good one, DeltaDAWG. I knew you had multiple accounts just to thumb people down, but didn't think you'd make the mistake of posting on one of them. You're seriously a faggot.

And seriously, if I'm whining and crying over nothing, then what does that make your whining and crying over? You're retarded.




The entire point was that he posted something that was wrong, and didn't take the necessary steps as a news poster to fix it. He didn't link to his source. He didn't clarify anything.
That in itself was wrong. I posted downward about what the real situation is. You've obviously read it since you're completely disregarding that whole part of my complaint. (Which is 95% of it.)


Go read Mabie A.'s article and see how you responded to her. Read this article and see how I responded to Carl B. Any difference? No. Now, you need to shut the Hell up because you are only making it more apparent how retarded you are.

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-7 # RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: I'm tired...DeltaDAWG 2011-07-14 16:52
"Go read Mabie A.'s article and see how you responded to her. Read this article and see how I responded to Carl B. Any difference? No."

Yes, there is a major difference. I simply stated that something needed to be clarified. That's it! It got clarified.

You on the other hand rant like a lunatic and get zero results.

Think about that for a while. See what you come up with.

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+6 # RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: I'm tired...crait 2011-07-14 19:30
I do that all the time and they either get deleted or they are ignored. That's why I make a big deal about them. And guess what, they are handled differently per writer. Whenever I see that someone is really trying to make a difference, I don't go on rants. Whenever I see someone doesn't give a fuck, I type up a big explanation for them to try to help them understand that they are retarded because... you know... retarded people need more work than average people.

Go read Ryan F.'s article that I replied to. See how I only posted 1 sentence that contained 4 words.
You keep telling yourself that you're right. You make a lot of progress that way. Speaking of progress...
You complained about how I was complaining about the multiple pages in articles, but those are gone, right? You complained about how I keep complaining about their advertisements, but they've reduced the amount that they have the site.
Yeah, those had nothing to do with me writing e-mails to the guy who owns the site or any of my comments towards the writers of the articles.
Seriously, get over yourself. You're one of those guys that create problems just to appear to be the victim. You're one of those guys that can't seriously shut the Hell up. You're one of those guys that only comments when he disagrees. You're one of those guys that can't stand if others have a different opinion.
You didn't "slam" me for anything. You got pissy and jumped onto your other accounts to thumb me down. Dude, I guess you "slammed" me. I guess I got pwn3d so hardcore. You're awesome, dude. Seriously. I wish I could give a fuck about the rating I get next to my comments. I wish I could give a fuck about your pitiful excuses to post on this site.

You got her to retract a statement that was wrong. Congrats. I've been having trouble with Carl B. doing the same thing in his article. Whenever I post something for Mabie A., she has no issue fixing her mistakes. It's not how I talk about the mistake, it's who makes those mistakes. And guess what, dude, you're the same kind of guy that can't admit he's wrong.

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-8 # RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: I'm tired...DeltaDAWG 2011-07-14 20:21
The facts remains, you rant all the time and nothing comes of it. You think you are the reason they stopped multipage articles? HA!

You also rant on and on about the POV articles yet you are too narrow minded to realize the POV articles are there for a reason. To keep the writers opinions out of the news blog. Yet in your ignorance you would have have them reverse it. So I guess that means you would rather the authors put their opinions back in the news feed? HA!

Wow! You made a 4 word comment. Did you get your cookie?

I'm sure most of your posts here are ignored and deleted. Because myself and others keep reporting your foul mouth. I've seen many of them disappear and for good reason. Think about that for a while. See what you come up with.

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+7 # RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: I'm tired...crait 2011-07-14 21:08
Do you even read what I post??? I told you that I don't care about the opinions in the POV articles.

HE POSTEDLIES AS FACTS. The point remains. You cannot tell me he did the right thing. You simply cannot.

And yes, they stopped the multiple pages because people like me. They started the POV articles because people complained about the opinions in the articles. Thry created the POV articles to also to get people to start postin their opinions. Sorry you don't like my opinion. Take some of your own advice and shut up.

Foul mouth? Ha. Others cuss constantly. Carl B. Included.

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+4 # RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: I'm tired...StereoJoe 2011-07-15 02:43
The fact is....this website is journalism about technology, specifically games and consoles. Journalism is supposed to be unbiased and mention both sides of the argument without elaborating and favoring one side. Journalists are not about PoVs. The fact that the PoVs are even on here irritates me. It's stupid when they have a forum where they could share their PoVs on. Every author on this site does it on this site but frankly Carl's always just bash Sony and start arguments in the comments. I'm full supporter of Xbox 360 but frankly this is just getting to be very stupid. There's nothing wrong with PS3s which makes me wonder why he bashes Sony so much. You're getting like -8 thumbs on everything you post. Someone can't take a hint when to stop?

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-4 # RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: I'm tired...DeltaDAWG 2011-07-15 09:34
That's why the POV articles have their own section. One thing they they do that I think is wrong is they cross post the POvs into other sections. They should keep the POVs in their own POV section. But to be fair THEY DO label every single one with POV.

If someone hates the POVs but keep reading them then what would you cal that person? Besides retarded?

-8?
Are you serious? Or are you crait posting as anon? Either way, you are lost.

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+2 # RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: I'm tired...crait 2011-07-15 12:06
No, that wasn't me. See, I don't have to post as other accounts to get someone to agree with me. You're retarded and you think everyone will stoop to your level.
And everyone has said this: It doesn't matter if it's a POV article or not, it is an opinion article that has lies posted as facts solely to create drama and to bash Sony. It's very, very apparent.

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-4 # RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: I'm tired...DeltaDAWG 2011-07-15 14:15
Yeah, that;s it, meanwhile your confession is plastered all over this site.

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+3 # RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: I'm tired...crait 2011-07-15 16:21
Cool story, bro.

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# RE: PoV: Is Sony removing another PS3 feature?bearmon2010 2011-07-13 22:11
@LLeg3nd,

You are right but still... What a dirty business.

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+1 # RE: PoV: Is Sony removing another PS3 feature?SuperSZ 2011-07-13 22:50
PLAYSTATION 3. IT ONLY REMOVES EVERYTHING.

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# Someone REALLY isn't objectiveNathJam 2011-07-14 00:14
Not at all with the tone of that article. I am surprised that can be called journalism in any way, it's an opinion piece, not news.

Removing a hardware function via a hardware revision is one thing and is a TOTALLY different thing than the removal of the other O/S SOFTWARE feature.

People won't be able to make outlandish claims like you outline in your "article" since they wouldn't have been able to BUY the hardware with that function.

Think before you go on a rant about things you really seem to know little about.

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-2 # RE: PoV: Is Sony removing another PS3 feature?NakedFaerie 2011-07-14 01:15
Are you really surprised they are removing more features? Thats what $ony do. Hype up the product, keep the high price but keep on removing features.
That why the firmware updates have been renamed firmware downgrades as you keep losing features with every new firmware.

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+4 # RE: RE: PoV: Is Sony removing another PS3 feature?crait 2011-07-14 01:48
Dude, Sony isn't removing anything. If he actually took the time out to read the article he is retelling, then you would see that it is the fault of all of the following people: Intel, Microsoft, Matsushita, Warner Brothers, Sony, IBM, Toshiba and The Walt Disney Company. They changed regulations in the AACS Final Adopter Agreement that they created so that they could keep Blu-Ray players all standard so that you won't find compatibility issues among televisions, which keep consumers happy and programmers.

You also need to get mad at all manufacturers of Blu-Ray players, because none of them will support video-out through component video anymore.

This group of people are putting an end to analog output to future-proof their technology. Are you mad that current PC's don't have a built-in floppy drive, too?
Sony isn't removing these features. They worked hard to allow videogame output in HD through component cables on the BD media discs by going through loop holes. Sorry you weren't informed by Carl B. He doesn't research what he posts about and doesn't link to where he got his information.
If you have a PS3 or Blu-Ray player now, you're fine. Only new Blu-Ray players are going to abide by the new regulations of the AACS Final Adopter Agreement.

Component is out, HDMI is in. I'm glad HDMI is a standard over component for BD because I HATE having a billion kinds of cable connections. If they just make a television with HDMI-in, companies can save a bunch of money and pass it off to the consumer.

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+2 # RE: RE: RE: PoV: Is Sony removing another PS3 feature?crait 2011-07-14 01:52
Ooops, almost forgot to CITE my sources.
http://www.afterdawn.com/glossary/term.cfm/aacs_final_adopter_agreement
http://www.afterdawn.com/glossary/term.cfm/aacs
http://kotaku.com/5820540/is-sony-quietly-removing-a-ps3-feature
http://www.accesscomms.com.au/Reference/AVsignals.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSrpCM-u1m0
Carl B., perhaps you can check out that last one.

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# RE: PoV: Is Sony removing another PS3 feature?kylek 2011-07-14 03:16
wait, the hardware is there but the firmware doesnt support component hd? why would they do that if the machine is capable??

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+1 # RE: RE: PoV: Is Sony removing another PS3 feature?Andy Mitchell 2011-07-14 10:17
It's NOT down to Sony. It only affects blu-ray movies and it's down to AACS encryption and HDCP. Plus, if you have a HDTV, odds are it'll have a HDMI port anyway.

You can still view blu-ray films on a standard tv via the old composite/scart leads but for HD you'll HAVE to use HDMI. It's not that big of a deal and I don't see what all the fuss is.

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# RE: PoV: Is Sony removing another PS3 feature?Andy Mitchell 2011-07-14 10:19
And if people are that worried, just buy a 2500 model instead. From the looks of things, it's still likely to be better anyway as it's got a 120mm fan instead of an 80mm that's in the 3000 series.

As for the power savings, they're not that great!

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-1 # RE: PoV: Is Sony removing another PS3 feature?PS360 Owner1 2011-07-14 10:23
If this is true, I won't update my PS3 any more because it'd be horrible not to be able to watch/see streamed content / Blu-ray / etc.

As I read this article PS3 possible removal, I just said to myself "I'm gonna punch Sony this time!" yeah right, lol.

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+5 # RE: RE: PoV: Is Sony removing another PS3 feature?crait 2011-07-14 15:20
It's not coming through a firmware update. It's through a hardware update.


-__-#

You're fine if you already own a PS3.

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# RE: PoV: Is Sony removing another PS3 feature?Confused 2011-07-14 14:32
Why would this lead to people hacking their ps3 unless they are sooooooo cheap that they won't even pay to get a real HDMI what a load of BS their is NO excuse to hack your ps3 to begin with unless your a punk that cheats and if that is the reason then you deserve to be perma banned from PSN so dont go crying when it happens as you have been warned

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# RE: PoV: Is Sony removing another PS3 feature?Keith_ 2011-07-14 21:44
HD and BluRay quality is overrated anyway. It's become so in depth, that the average person probably wouldn't even notice the difference between 1080p and 720p anyway.

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# WHY?Dork geniuz 2011-07-15 07:40
THough I have an hdtv with hdmi inputs now, I used to have an hdtv that only had component cables on it and what comes to mind is if I had still had that tv I wouldve been pissed because they would basically be forcing me to buy a new hdtv.Further more what happens if the HDMI ports on my tv malfunction due to wear & tear leaving me with the component cables as my last resort.Once again I will then either be forced to get a new or used ps3 or hdtv.I dont really see the reason for giving us features and then taking them away like indian givers.They used all these extra features as selling points when trying to get us to buy the systems.So aside from taking away backwards compatibility for ps2 games,other os & now the component feature what do you think will happen next.Granted its not the same as say Nintendo taking away the 3d feature on the 3ds or perhaps canceling the recently new netflix app for ds it still doesnt make sense.If they take that away from us than xbox 360 will have one more leg over ps3 even tho 360 still doesnt have a bluray player, web browser or free online gameplay..

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+2 # RE: PoV: Is Sony removing another PS3 feature?Andy Mitchell 2011-07-15 09:18
http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2011/07/13/sony-explain-hdmi-requirements/

Once again, it's NOT down to Sony. It's part of the AACS standards.

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