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Jon Carmack (id Software): PC is not the market leader anymore

Posted Oct 9, 2011 at 3:00PM EST by Tim Curtin

Listed in: PC Gaming Tags: game sales, jon carmack, pc vs console
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Ok...it took me a little while to write this story, mostly because I had to put down my metaphorical pitchfork (i.e. my keyboard used to write this) and go and douse my tangible one in petrol, ready for lynching!

 

But, should these comments really come as a surprise?

 

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Undoubtedly (come on console lovers, you have to give PC this) PC remains at the forefront of technology, this is unquestioned. The Playstation 3 does close the gap somewhat, but you could have built a PC that was 5x as fast the day the PS3 released.

 

That said, a wealth of top level games do seem to be released on console nowadays, then to eventually reach PC (L.A. Noire, GTA).

 

There was a time, not so long ago, where everything revolved around the PC gaming market. Console developers copied it all, in the hope that the Playstation One or Xbox technology could handle it. But now? Perhaps Carmack is right.

 

“We do not see the PC as the leading platform for games. That statement will enrage some people, but it is hard to characterise it otherwise; both console versions will have larger audiences than the PC version” Carmack said in one of his latest interviews.

 

And there it is.

 

Yes a high end PC is more powerful than a console could ever hope to be, new tech comes out all the time, but game Dev's answer to the powers at be, and those powers want $$$.

 

Do $$$ = Good games though?

 

Indie development is stronger than ever at the moment, for all platforms. Even those developers we once had faith in seem to focus more on the dollar spinning than game quality (i'm looking at you Blizzard and Diablo 3!).

 

I'll refrain from marching on Carmack's house for now, as he is, unfortunately, correct. With the three major console user bases significantly higher than the PC Gaming user base, they will of course focus their efforts there. More reward for effort!

 

I need to go, my pitchfork has started a small grass fire....



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# RE: Jon Carmack (id Software): PC is not the market leader anymorezanz 2011-10-09 16:23
go worthless chart on NPD data that dose not show digital sales.

lets just ignore that less and less games came out for the pc other than rts and shooters from 04-07, and lets ignore that COD sells more games and dlc on pc than the consoles combined or that bc2 has more vip codes sold than each console (not quite as much as both put together) and then fallout3/nv sold more on the pc than ether console.

so its not that consoles are a larger market, pc gamers dont buy as much crap, and we dont have people who buy wii games listed (we do have them with farmvill and that other crap but they are not represented in the NPD charts)

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+1 # RE: Jon Carmack (id Software): PC is not the market leader anymoreBut Fukir 2011-10-09 16:36
Lol, thats pretty transparent.

So he's justifying his bug ridden crapware PC version by attacking PC's as a platform on the whole.

Well then dont release your crapware on PC to milk a few more bucks out of people if you aren't capable of doing it right nimrod.

Problem solved.

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+2 # RE: Jon Carmack (id Software): PC is not the market leader anymoreJohn 2011-10-09 17:12
So he regrets choosing consoles (Xbox360) as a lead platform to develop Rage, and in the same time he doesn't wanna develop on PC.. What's his problem??
Bethesda destroyed you id.

After Crytek, down you go.

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# RE: Jon Carmack (id Software): PC is not the market leader anymoreLoki 2011-10-09 19:37
if every games goes to console then someday no one will buy pc for games then graphic card manufacture will dying it means visual quality on the next gen console won't improve significantly then you will realize that pc games is important

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# RE: RE: Jon Carmack (id Software): PC is not the market leader anymoreJohn W 2011-10-09 20:44
You need to go back to 5th grade English class so you can learn how to type sentences properly.

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# RE: RE: Jon Carmack (id Software): PC is not the market leader anymoreblarping 2011-10-10 14:27
Yeah, because games are the ONLY reason PCs need advanced graphics cards... O.O ... I work in entertainment and your precious movies and cut scenes need better dedicated machines than gamers (and contrary to belief, no Apple doesn't reign supreme in entertainment, it's still PC).

Also, I kind of agree with this article. The PC doesn't seem to sell as well for a versatile audience. It's pretty much core gamers. That being said there is a larger audience with consoles because they're a bit more user friendly and less involved.

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# RE: Jon Carmack (id Software): PC is not the market leader anymoredavidpoo 2011-10-09 22:13
man, before Rage, I thought "Hmmmm, heres a dude whose worked on some pretty cool shit, hes got a good rep in the industry, he knows what hes talking about" but all thats been puked from his mouth after its release is just contradictory bullshit. And I dont even have the game!

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# RE: Jon Carmack (id Software): PC is not the market leader anymoreTirsoJRP 2011-10-09 22:40
DOOM4


...powered by CryEngine3 :-*

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# RE: RE: Jon Carmack (id Software): PC is not the market leader anymoreJohn 2011-10-10 07:34
Let's mix it up a bit.. :lol:

CryTech4
from Crytek and id Tech :P

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# RE: Jon Carmack (id Software): PC is not the market leader anymorethepariah4231 2011-10-09 23:57
I don't know about the rest of you, but I play on what the game's on. People blindly fanboy-ing a specific console really should just disappear; they're the cancer of the gaming world and spoil the fun for everyone, whether they know they are or not.

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# RE: Jon Carmack (id Software): PC is not the market leader anymorebender2 2011-10-10 07:07
THATS FUNNY!!! LIE LIE LIE!!! :D :D :D
Nice Poll But, One Big Problem They Don't Count Digital Distribution Like STEAM. SO THEY LIED. Most games are like 5 USD on steam and are a way better deals so don't you think more people would buy a lot more games.

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# RE: Jon Carmack (id Software): PC is not the market leader anymoreyaoitaru 2011-10-10 14:20
all of my PC games are pirated.

Except Blizzard games.

Steam digital sales are mainly old $5 games that don't make that much money anyways.

I said this before but

$PC$ Gaming = Blizzard

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# RE: Jon Carmack (id Software): PC is not the market leader anymoreXastabus 2011-10-27 10:27
I'm really not surprised by this. I mostly dropped out of PC gaming years ago due to the significantly higher cost. You have to spend the equivalent of a new console almost every year to keep your PC up to par with the latest mainstream games. Anyone with a rig more than 2 years old is more than likely not going to be able to play the latest games. Considering the higher cost of the PCs, especially ones built for gaming, consoles are a much better return on investment for the consumer. This is especially true of this console generation where we are approaching 6 years with Xbox 360 and 5 years with PS3. (If I'm wrong, blame Wikipedia.)

On the other hand, Indie games are great and don't usually require bleeding edge hardware. There is still hope for the PC gaming enthusiast, you just have to look a little harder.

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