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PoV: What's the NGP's selling factor?

Posted Jun 2, 2011 at 6:00PM EST by Carl B

Listed in: PS Vita Tags: e3 2011, ngp, Sony
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With E3 just days away, Sony's new handheld system will surely be a big point in their conference. We know quite a bit about the system, but there's something that isn't quite clear: what is its selling factor?

 

Rumors have been floating around that the NGP's name may be "Playstation Vita." If this is true, it's evident that Sony wants to cut ties with the PSP brand. Its current gen portable didn't necessarily fail like the N-Gage, but it wasn't much of a success outside of Japan. The system was also prone to hacks and exploits, and it really didn't have a robust software lineup, especially compared to the Nintendo DS which had fantastic third and first party support.

 

PlayStation Suite and being able to play a multiplayer game wherever you go via 3G is pretty cool, but is it enough to justify a cost that will likely be more than $300? Based on what happened with the PSP, one just can't assume its library will be great -- that's highly subjective, however, but the point still stands. Go ahead and name at least ten PSP games that are universally considered great. I love my PSP, but I can only think of a handful.

 

I'll be getting an NGP around launch depending on its cost, but I really want to know what this handheld will do to make me not regret all the money I'll be spending on it. Super powerful graphics are cool and all, but a handheld that mimics a console isn't ideal in my eyes. I already own a PlayStation 3, and the point of a handheld is to have experiences that can't be done on consoles. Take Scribblenauts for example, or glasses-free 3D.

 

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# RE: PoV: What's the NGP's selling factor?crait 2011-06-02 20:32
Carl B., the selling factor for the new PSP 2 is the power.
I want a console in my hand. Not a handheld game system with power, features, or graphics of the N64. I want a handheld PS3/360. Anyone who says that they don't want a PS3 in their hands because they think portable consoles need to be different is retarded. I want all of the awesomeness that I can to be in my game systems.

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# RE: RE: PoV: What's the NGP's selling factor?crait 2011-06-02 20:35
And yes, the PSP 2 has all of the handheld features, too. It has EVERY feature that the 3DS has except the 3D screen, which does not change the way you play games. The PSP 2 adds dual analog sticks, back-touchpad, HD, a lot of power, and much, much more.

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# RE: RE: PoV: What's the NGP's selling factor?Carl B 2011-06-02 20:48
I see your point, but personally I don't want to play a super cinematic game like Uncharted on a small screen. Just my two cents -- still getting the system.

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# RE: RE: RE: PoV: What's the NGP's selling factor?crait 2011-06-03 00:44
Right. You don't have to. But, there are games like that available to people who do want to.

You will always have the old handheld experience in a handheld console, but you will also have an added experience of cinematic games. It doesn't take away from you, but it adds for everyone else. It's not a bad thing for anyone. :)

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# RE: RE: PoV: What's the NGP's selling factor?yaoitaru 2011-06-03 13:38
The PSP was powerful for its time.

PSP was marketed as a "console" in your hand. People even went and called it was like a cross between PSX and PS2 in your hand. Kind of nailed that actually...

I also heard it lost to a dual screen handheld with "inferior" N64-type graphics. Which had WAY MORE debilitating piracy issues than the psp.

Hands down, it all comes down to the quality of the library of games and pricing.

Don't forget about gaining back the trust of your general customers. The hardcore gamers will follow Sony to death, but they can't pay the bills.

Can you imagine a world in which Sony never removed Linux support?

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# RE: RE: RE: PoV: What's the NGP's selling factor?crait 2011-06-04 02:22
The PSP was powerful for it's time and gained a lot of great games because of that that could never be on the DS because of how the DS handled and the inferior processing power. (Ever play Tony Hawk on the DS? Ugh. I loved the PSP version soo much!)
And no, the PSP did not lose to the DS. I heard the 3DS lost to the PSP already, though. Did you forget about those stats?

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+2 # EhhhBucketman622 2011-06-02 20:33
You say "prone to hacks" as if it was a bad thing. The PSP's hackability is one of the reasons it probably sold so strongly. Sure, not everyone is a pirate, but when you crack open a nice can of PSP, you're opening a damn swiss army knife of shit you can do. From opening rar/zip files, to using it as an emulator, to playing PSX games, to using it as a computer controller, to even using (the original) it as a friggin REMOTE CONTROL FOR YOUR TV. The PSP, by itself, was pretty mild. But add the pinch of hacker's delight, and you create manna from heaven.

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+1 # RE: EhhhDarron 2011-06-02 21:30
Makes you wonder how things would go if Sony went the indie route and let people develop software or apps for the NGP at a modest price...
That'd be enough of a selling point in and of itself

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# RE: RE: Ehhhcrait 2011-06-03 00:59
Dangit, Darron, I didn't mean to thumb you down. :( Slip of the hand....
Anyways, I couldn't agree more. It seems now more than ever, companies are trying to get a bunch of little games out there because if there's a lot, there's a higher chance of the next Angry Birds or Papi Jump. Sony lowered the SDK prices, and are trying to hop on board to compete with the App Store and the likes. I'm glad. It helps everyone.
The original PSP's 'homebrew scene' was incredible and helped it gained a lot of sales. Even though I hate pirating, the homebrew and custom firmware, and devHook was a huge advantage over the DS. I loved playing the PSP games my friends made and sharing the ones I made with them. :)

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# RE: RE: RE: EhhhDarron 2011-06-03 12:56
All is forgiven, sir XD
But not just games, apps and the such would be awesome too
Basically it would be really beneficial if Sony made a friend out of the Homebrew community

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# RE: RE: RE: RE: Ehhhcrait 2011-06-04 02:25
Yeah, definitely! :D
I think Sony is really trying hard to get this off of the ground. I'm thinking they will have a lot of applications. The original PSP had the Go!Cam, Go!Mess, Skype, Internet Radio, RSS, etc, etc. It even had that constellation viewer app...
The point is, I saw a lot with the original PSP and doubt Sony would let the competition take what they've tried to give to their first handheld.

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# RE: RE: EhhhBut Fukir 2011-06-03 16:29
Quoting Darron:
... let people develop software or apps for the NGP at a modest price...


Thats not a bad idea.

Kind of a good one.

I never thought of that.

Instead of big game makers wasting resources on dollars apps, let aspiring homebrewers handle that territory were creative gameplay is more important that expensive pixel crunching.

And if a real clever amateur coder emerges, let the bidding begin for his/her exclusive services.

That would also fit into this whole "lifestyle" and community BS that they keep mumbling at.

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# RE: RE: RE: Ehhhcrait 2011-06-04 02:26
iPhone SDK is only $100 with licensing.... :-*
Sony, you listening?

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+1 # RE: EhhhEtnasPrinny 2011-06-03 01:56
@crait, I agree. :D
@Darron, Well with most of the PSP's games being crud, I don't see why they wouldn't let indie devs get a chance at developing on the NGP.
@Carl B. here's more than ten awesome PSP games:
Zettai Hero Project: URvsDE
Dissidia 012
Dissidia
Gods Eater Burst
Persona 3 Portable
Kingdom of Paradise
Daxter
Persona: Tsumi
Disgaea AoD
Disgaea DHD
Prinny CIRBtH
Prinny DoOPD
Valkyria Chronicles

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# RE: PoV: What's the NGP's selling factor?Darron 2011-06-02 20:48
So it's super powerful, already has Sony's first party franchises lined up (Wipeout, Uncharted, Killzone, and you're certainly not going to say that those will be bad...), it's got a gyro, back AND front touchpad, two mounted cameras and (finally) 2 analog sticks.
...but you think it doesn't have a selling point because it's not 'different' enough...
Riiiight...I dunno about you, but I buy my consoles based on the quality of the games on them as well as whether it has a game I want on it. I wanted a PSP for a while, yes, but I wasn't horribly driven to get one until they announced Crisis Core...
Don't judge the idea of it's selling point until you see how they market it.
And the power is a big selling point in and of itself, a portable console can't be a bad thing.

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# RE: RE: PoV: What's the NGP's selling factor?crait 2011-06-03 00:51
Spoken like a true gamer! ;)
"I won't buy something based on features, I see how it performs. Therefore, I don't need some gimmick to make me buy it, I need the games."

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+1 # RE: RE: RE: PoV: What's the NGP's selling factor?Darron 2011-06-03 12:58
Why thank you good sir :D
Thus why I so very much hate fanboyism
I play for the games, not for choosing sides xD

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# All about the gamesEd25 2011-06-03 02:06
The NGP needs to focus on the games. Though there were a couple great psp games most were crappy ports with missing features and even original titles had dumb ed down gameplay.

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# gamin everywhereshimazaki 2011-06-03 10:43
For my console like griphics in a handheld lie kis is the main reason for buying this NGP, couse i don`t own an PS3, and i amn only in home to sleep, so, not any person in ther world has a PS3 to play with and whant to have a good system to go everywhere., at leas, is what i think.

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+1 # RE: PoV: What's the NGP's selling factor?But Fukir 2011-06-03 16:19
I heard that all that PSP being a failure outside of Japan and the DS's fantastic library are exaggerated.

Not outselling a nintendo handheld is not a sign of failure anymore then OSX not outselling windows is.
The fanbase for gameboys is built in and ubiquitous.

And as far as the amazing game library, a million turds is still crap.

What are the best DS games?

And I dont consider pokemon and mario great games despite they're immense sales to poke-mario marks.

Dont know what PSP2's seeling factor will be.

Although if your a fan of great hardware its got that.

But as we've all seen before, great hardware without great software, and EXCLUSIVES, is like getting all dressed up with no place to go.

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+1 # RE: PoV: What's the NGP's selling factor?fanoultimate 2011-06-04 14:08
Selling point...? hmmm, maybe... everything about psp2? I mean, just look at it. That little shit just solved every single flaw the original psp has

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# RE: RE: PoV: What's the NGP's selling factor?crait 2011-06-04 16:52
And added stuff we didn't even expect! :)

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# RE: PoV: What's the NGP's selling factor?10 2011-06-23 11:41
What most people want is pretty looking specs and by all means, Sony has delivered.

But I think EVERYONE will agree.
That a "great" console without great games sucks.

Sure the touchpad/screen, cameras, awesome CPU etc..
What matters in the end is the games.

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