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Valve has no plans for Source 2

Posted May 15, 2011 at 5:37PM EST by Karl B.

Listed in: News Tags: defense of the ancients 2, source engine, valve
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The Source engine has been Valve's go-to engine ever since it debuted in 2004. Almost seven years later, Valve still has no plans to make a second iteration of the popular game engine. Instead, the studio will be sticking with their tried and true method of incremental updates.

 

"There are lot of advantages on iterating on a mature and stable and shipped codebase, as opposed to starting over again," Valve president Gabe Newell told Develop. "I think, when you see a game like DOTA 2, you'll see how developers can get a lot more out of Source than most companies can get from a scratch-built engine."

 

With the incremental updates model working really well for the company, Newell doesn't see a point where Valve might have to make changes that necessitate a totally new engine.

 

"Does that mean we'll reach some architectural tipping-point where we'll need to change? No," he offered. "I mean, if [Intel's cancelled GPU] Larrabee had shipped that would have probably necessitated some fairly dramatic changes in order to take advantage of it. But, so far we've been able to keep the engine moving ahead, robustly. I mean, I think it looks great."

 

Via [Develop]



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+1 # -hush404 2011-05-15 19:09
If an engine receives constant updates it can continue to be viable. Just because some companies ditch their old stuff and start a new doesn't mean that older engines can't survive.

Graphical updates can be done to bring older engines forward.

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# RE: -lordrand11 2011-05-15 20:21
Quoting hush404:
If an engine receives constant updates it can continue to be viable. Just because some companies ditch their old stuff and start a new doesn't mean that older engines can't survive.

Graphical updates can be done to bring older engines forward.


I agree fully. Newer engines tend to be plagued with problems. As long as Valve can keep a steady stream of updates for Source and keep it relevant to the "here and now" there shouldn't ever need to be a new one.

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# /agree3vi1 2011-05-15 20:10
I agree with hush404: Unless there are big problems with their current architecture, what would be the point of a rewrite?

At this point, they have good multiprocessor support, and the engine abstracted enough from the actual platform APIs that they can support multiple backends (DirectX, OpenGL, etc...) - which means they have almost all platforms covered.

I'm sure their programmers play around with new optimizations and ideas... but what does anyone think is wrong with the framework they already have?

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# halflife ep 3TDK 2011-05-15 20:13
wat hapen to halflife 2 ep 3

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# RE: halflife ep 3lordrand11 2011-05-15 20:23
Quoting TDK:
wat hapen to halflife 2 ep 3


From what I'm seeing and hearing I believe HL2Ep3 will be kind of a prologue to Half-Life 3 and will most likely be included in the game. They mainly have to bridge the gap between Portal and the Half-Life series as well as keep the continuity of Half-Life 3 up to snuff with its previous releases.

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# Why break gold?John Jason 2011-05-15 21:37
I support their decision. They are used to the engine, there's nothing wrong with the engine, and it keeps producing solid games. It would be like asking Square Enix after making the Final Fantasy IV to just move on to a new thing...think of what we'd miss out on.

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-3 # RE: Valve has no plans for Source 2bender2 2011-05-15 22:32
The Source Engine is the problem there updates broke so many games like Day of Defeat: Source, the helmet broke just on the last update. Plus every shot no regs and they missed up Counter Strike: Source not just that but the graphics are old and the games are dying. The Unreal Tournament 3 Engine is way better and the tools on source are out dated so yup the source is crap now. Sorry. :P

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# RE: RE: Valve has no plans for Source 2Musev 2011-05-16 08:02
counter strike is dying? I looked at steam stats the other day and there were more people playing that game than mw2 and blops combined (btw mw2 was the 3rd most played and blops 5th)

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# /facepalmKirk 2011-05-17 02:03
bender2..your opinion is as spurious as your English..

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# coolalexZander2008 2011-05-16 09:45
i dont care if they use the same engine all the time i just want a new Half life. please can you give me that. or give me some more left 4 dead

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+1 # RE: Valve has no plans for Source 2bender2 2011-05-16 20:03
Yes, Counter Strike: Source used to be way more popular its been more then cut in half and no cal, I see less and less people coming on. Plus most of the servers are crappy mod servers and they missed up the game when they updated it that is when most of the players started to leave. For the people saying it is good and you don't need to change it you don't play a lot do you. I bet most of you don't even have over 300 hour in gameplay in cs:s :sad:

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