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Battlefield devs: "Our competitors are getting lazy"

Posted Mar 11, 2011 at 10:09PM EST by Ryan F.

Listed in: News Tags: battlefield 3, DICE, EA, industry news and update
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DICE have accused its nearest rivals of just recycling their old aged FPS formula and says its only a matter of time before they will take out the FPS crown.

 

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Speaking in the latest issue of Official PlayStation Magazine, DICE general manager, Karl-Magnus Troedsson said:

"Our competitors are getting lazy. They're using the same engine, the same recipe for building a game. At some point you need to take that leap. I haven't seen them take that leap since a long time ago.

"We are doing that now. They had better watch out. We are coming for them," he added.

DICE is currently working on another installment of their first-person shooter series, Battlefield 3, which they say can handle 256-players at once, ala MAG, but they opted not to and settled for 64 because it was "not fun."

“A lot of people ask us about 64 versus 128 or 256 players. Technically, we can go to 256, we’ve tried it. We play tested with 128. You’ve got to make a game that’s fun to play. And, arguably, we think that the most fun you can have is when it’s between 32 and 40 players,” says DICE CEO Patrick Söderlund in a recent interview with AtomicMPC.

“And we’ve done substantial research into this and tested 128 and that it’s not fun. Maybe we haven’t done our design work good enough, but we just feel like there’s no point in going higher than 64.”

Battlefield 3 is slated to arrive later this year for the PS3, Xbox 360 and PC.

 

 

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# RE: Battlefield devs: "Our competitors are getting lazy"Ryan F. 2011-03-12 00:08
well, what's your take on this guys? do you agree with what DICE is saying?

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# RE: RE: Battlefield devs: "Our competitors are getting lazy"Darrell Johnson 2011-03-12 00:24
*cough call of duty *cough

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# RE: RE: RE: Battlefield devs: "Our competitors are getting lazy"joshbarty1 2011-03-13 11:30
Quoting Darrell Johnson:
*cough call of duty *cough


If u ever played CS:source it's not very different from CoD MW1-2 or BlOps so yeh mainstream FPS have been lazy

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# RE: RE: Battlefield devs: "Our competitors are getting lazy"David G. 2011-03-12 01:47
Yes pretty much, I've seen their new engine and it's impressing. It's far superior than anything I've seen for shooters, that's for sure.

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+1 # RE: Battlefield devs: "Our competitors are getting lazy"leo9891 2011-03-12 00:55
BlOps might just be my last CoD game, and the reason for this is cause its the same thing over and over. I will say that CoD is fun, but I'm just getting tired of it. I've played BFBC2 and loved it, BFBC3 here I come!

I gotta agree with EA, no one else is taking that "leap" they are talking about. Since i've seen the gameplay trailer for BFBC3, they have stepped it up alot from BFBC2. Graphics wise and interaction wise. I just can't wait for this game to come out!

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# BF3liquidsith 2011-03-12 11:02
BF3 is what you must be referring to, bad company is just a side game, BF2 was a major title that was released, Battlefield 3 is the NEXT major game to come out, you thought bad company 2 was good, just wait till you get your hands on BF3, it'll blow Bad Company 2 out of the water...

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# RE: BF3leo9891 2011-03-21 15:51
lol yeah I meant BF3.

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# RE: Battlefield devs: "Our competitors are getting lazy"jgr9 2011-03-12 00:58
i will agree about the number of players if they can bump the console version up to 64. :P

Also... a couple days late w/ this news.

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# .ph0lly 2011-03-12 01:06
I hope they're right, I'm getting sick of COD. I've been playing since COD 4 and I'm burnt out on it now. I wish they would do central servers like GOW3 is going to do, that's the only way to keep online shooters fair for all and eliminate most cheating.

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# HmmmFork 2011-03-12 04:18
I don't think it is a good PR move to challenge your rivals and then, in the next breath, detail why you are not giving your consumer as much as another match size.

Why would you not just leave the option open for the players to decide if they want to play with 128 or 256? I will tell you why. Because YOU CAN'T MAKE IT HAPPEN.

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+1 # RE: Battlefield devs: "Our competitors are getting lazy"Gishank 2011-03-12 04:19
Because EA are toooottallly not doing the exact same thing. The only thing that they have changed from Battlefield BC2 to Battlefield 3 is a graphical enhancement.

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+1 # RE: Battlefield devs: "Our competitors are getting lazy"JPhillips 2011-03-12 05:05
Huh! Everything he is talking about can be found in dices last handful of games.

Quick example.
BF:BC > BF:BC2 > MoH

last time I checked those three games are just about the same with the only real difference being that you added a couple of new vehicles in each and then removed them in MoH.

But seriously pat yourselves on the back, dice. I mean churning out the same product repeatedly is the hallmark of being owned by EA, AMIRITE?!

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# RE: Battlefield devs: "Our competitors are getting lazy"BF3 2011-03-12 07:10
its battlefield 3, not bad company 3......

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# RE: Battlefield devs: "Our competitors are getting lazy"Musev 2011-03-12 21:00
Horses for courses. cod may seem to be getting boring but it always does when treyacrh make them. cod died when IW did. this game is more a niche not a replacment.

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# RE: RE: Battlefield devs: mass23 2011-03-12 23:32
What?!? Black Ops was made by Treyarch and that game is the best COD there has ever been. Its a well balanced game with noob tubes gone, awesome campaign, combat training, and it has zombies. And dont forget that Black Ops has split screen!! Just because the original IW is gone doesnt mean COD is dead and Treyarch proved it to us with Black Ops. That being said, Im looking forward to Battlefield 3. That game looks so fucking SICK!!! When i first saw the trailer, i thought it was a trailer from a movie!

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# RE: RE: RE: Battlefield devs: omgomgDONT 2011-03-13 01:56
LOL I'm not gonna go ahead and say treyarch is shit, its activision. WaW was F'n amazing then B ops rolled around and they destroyed it. They had something really good going in the campaign and they ruined it with the whole sleeper agent crap. :-x They made this game for the younger audience since they'll buy into such a crappy story. Idk, rated M for 17+ yet the only ones having fun are the 12 year olds.

Multiplayer is all based around being fair to the little guy and in no way is balanced for experienced players. They say they took out noob toobers yet that noob that's 4 in 20 always manages to ruin ur killstreak with his lucky camp toob, right?

Can a lvl 10 beat a lvl 50 in black ops? FUCK NO, even if its not 1 on 1 his OP will rack him the most kills doubling your struggle through the match. If you look at mwf2 being a create my first class noob i pick the M4 and low and behold I went up 3-5 levels in one match competing and making a challenge for your 10th lvl70 dick, anyone follow this logic? Fairness for all not neo?

So what if your k/d sucked your first prestige you learned to be good like the rest not learned to follow activision's idea of following their addictive camper 20 in 0.

In the past cod if someone was noob toobing with one man army wasn't it such a feat to fuck him up and still double his score?
:D Like for me being able to do the whole haha in your face cheater kinda tickled me in just the right way.

They scrapped every idea from the table and hired and laid off a new team every week because they thought it'd be everything but it was just pure constant contradiction. There isn't a single thing balanced in that game.

I could handle quick scoping again, it was just the a*holes who put tape on their tv or hacked to get a corsair on their screen, maybe try a different hosting approach that has some kind of warden?

Remember Quick Scoping B****! Then he'd back out and go into his lonely hearts lobby? I could care less cuz I always got my shot in on him. Yeah lets all shoot our own feet when you get rushed and u cant switch to your pistol in time..

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# RE: RE: RE: Battlefield devs: omgomgDONT 2011-03-13 03:56
Honestly I think this was IW's problem:

:o Activison SOLD Id SOFTWARE, :cry:, the creators of the Id Tech engine which COD was solely based on.. Where's our next gen? gone.

All Jason and Vince wanted was to take the game to the next level. Since they sold Id a year before, they lost their chances with Id tech 4 (FRIGGEN EPIC POTENTIAL, blame everyones crappy PCs cuz they're about 5-10years ahead of us.)
And maybe, just maybe the tech 5 which is like crystal friggen glass ball.

So with their next gen sold off and nothing to advance with what do you do, you say "HEY! You guys can go Fuck yourselfs we're creators not thieves, we're not using 10 year old shit anymore." I think IW's Id tech 3 engine was first released in the year 2000? Yep it was. :-*

Can you blame them? Black ops wasn't a step forward graphically, AT ALL! :zzz And there's no strategy points on any map, its just camping points, infinity said alright so spetnaz will be on D here, the rangers will advance here and come out over there. Treys like alright we'll make a window here, you can see here and here, and then over there you can see here.. and if you stand here he'll spawn directly there.

And if you have any other opinion on that all Trey did was make random buildings and some dumby who know's art not gaming says oh this will look nice over here. They're both don't correct me.

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# RE: RE: RE: Battlefield devs: DONTyou 2011-03-13 03:58
When you make a map you start with the play (Like the coaches in NFL) not the bling
-er-ish anyone else like grainy graphics? I'm gloss fan of indepth 3d art turned flat to save your console, not shit drawn in wind xp paint converted to jpeg.

Really truth on that is that they added too much detail so everything had to be low grade, IW kept it simple, key eye attractors here and there and everything else is clean as a new bath tub.

You know all it would of took was a friendly encounter between Jason or Vince with Mr. John Remero at last year's Activion New Year's Party. Would of been a I'm your biggest fan, hand shake a crack at the release of Black Ops and brain blast! Then mw3 you'd see the IW logo pop up, fade, then Powered by Id Software blinding your eyes peering into a world we'll never see. That's what I think but w.e I can always dream.

I think I was a fan at age 5 barely being able to stand anymore from watching my father play Doom, how bout you?
(Yes I'd get a break with the cheats on every once and awhile.) ;-)

Yes Dice should be crying again. They are multiplayer but they never got the story and atmosphere until bad company which was just an endless parody.

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# LOL........KingPepper 2011-03-13 06:32
Quoting mass23:
What?!? Black Ops was made by Treyarch and that game is the best COD there has ever been. Its a well balanced game with noob tubes gone, awesome campaign, combat training, and it has zombies. And dont forget that Black Ops has split screen!! Just because the original IW is gone doesnt mean COD is dead and Treyarch proved it to us with Black Ops. That being said, Im looking forward to Battlefield 3. That game looks so fucking SICK!!! When i first saw the trailer, i thought it was a trailer from a movie!


Yes maybe on a £700 PC upwards, but for console owners on the XBOX 360 or PS3, it can not be any better than COD-MW1 graphics wise, as the machines wouldn't be able to handle it, now for me on consoles Battlefield Bad Company was excellent, but somehow BC2 i didn't like as much, probably the maps in that game, were way to big, sniper rifles are way too powerful, i am glad to see that the trailer shows in building's in this latest version BF3

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# OFFLINE MULTIiKing 2011-03-13 12:04
IF THEY PUT LOCA OR OFFLINE MULTIPLAYER WITH 4 CONTROLLERS AND WITH CO OP CAMPAING THEN IM DEFINETLY BUYING IF NOT THEN ILL STICK TO BLACK OPS LOL

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