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PSP is done; NGP is dead on arrival; 3DS is gimmicky, says ngmoco boss

Posted Mar 2, 2011 at 6:06PM EST by Karl B.

Listed in: News Tags: 3D, ngmoco, Nintendo, Sony

A lot of developers may have high hopes for Sony's Next Generation Portable, but smartphone game developer and publisher ngmoco isn't one of them. As far as ngmoco boss Neil Young is concerned, the NGP will be a "dead on arrival" follow-up to a handheld system that's already "done".

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Speaking to Industry Gamers at the ongoing Game Developers Conference, Young said that Sony will be unable to compete with smartphone app stores that have a wide range of games and apps available for a fraction of a traditional handheld game's price.

"I think PSP is done and the new [NGP] is dead on arrival," he said. "It's really difficult to compete with an app store that has hundreds of thousands of applications and a wide range of options where the average price paid is around US$ 1.20 and there are tens, if not hundreds of thousands of free applications that are really high quality. So I just don't think Sony's going to be able to compete with that."

Young also believes that even the Sony NGP's processing and graphics power, which has been compared to a PS3-like experience, won't be enough to save the handheld. "It's not a PS3 quality experience...," he said. "And in terms of getting broad adoption, having great processing power is not necessarily a prerequisite for great adoption in the marketplace. You need a range of things and what I think the iPod Touch and iPhone have been able to do is offer people swiss army knife type functionality for a device that plays games really well."

Even the recently released 3DS, the successor to the wildly popular Nintendo DS, wasn't safe from Young's critical assessments. Although he admits that Nintendo's popular first-party IPs will be able to propel the 3DS into competitive territory, he brands the handheld's 3D features as "gimmicky".

"I think Nintendo will likely be competitive," he said. "My personal opinion is that the 3D piece of the puzzle is kind of gimmicky. But Nintendo has great franchises and there are tens of millions of people who want to participate in those franchises, so that always helps... But the real question is the degree to which there's a third-party community."

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What are they trying to accomplish here? This is something I expect to hear from someone's blog or a random user on GameFAQs.
It sounds like he's walking into a room full of game developers and saying "Everything sucks!" and then leaving.

"smartphone game developer and publisher ngmoco isn't one of them"
It's like hearing someone who traces or plays bowling with bumpers make critical statements about real artists and real bowlers.

# LOL — Hollow_Fang 2011-03-02 19:55

well its easy to see the company that got shot down from making games for consoles from branching out of I product limited os lol

+2 # RE: PSP is done; NGP is dead on arrival; 3DS is gimmicky, says ngmoco boss — xnamkcor 2011-03-02 19:58

I just watched the Nintendo video from GDC. It seems he's lashing back at Iwata's comments on mobile gaming's lack of quality and preference for many 1 dollar sales.

# ... — symbal 2011-03-02 20:09

Yes Psp has been over and done for years now but no matter what you want to say about 3DS you just know it's gonna sell like Hell, and that just proves you don't need all the latest technology if you just put some thought into your product and understand the marketplace, and that's why Sony has a very high chance the NGP will fail because they couldn't give a crap what their customers ask for.Quoting xnamkcor:

I just watched the Nintendo video from GDC. It seems he's lashing back at Iwata's comments on mobile gaming's lack of quality and preference for many 1 dollar sales.

+2 # But the NGP... — ThatOtherGuy 2011-03-02 21:52

...is everything I could ever hope for. ^^ The difference between Nintendo and Sony is that they focus on different things with their platforms. It opens up for more varied content on each platform.

Maybe this generation I'll end up buying both the 3DS and NGP. ^^

# also — Hollow_Fang 2011-03-02 19:59

also ya there's thousands of pieces of coal but that's y diamonds are so treasured too much like the portable phone os apps 99.9 crap 1% decent

# Might be right... — Kreationz 2011-03-02 20:00

I hate to say it, but... he might be right in part at least. Nintendo+Mario=Game Sales, Sony+???=???, They need a good franchise(that's a Sony exclusive that people actually want) to make it's way to the NGP for it to be competitive. PSP will obviously have to step aside despite what Sony says, but the #1 absolute biggest advantage of smart phones comes down to two words:
OPEN SOURCE!!!

Sony/Nintendo need change their industry model for licensing and instead allow what the smart phone industry does and what MS is doing with XLIG. Offer the full power of your system to indie/hobbyist type devs and make a marketplace for them where they can sell games cheap and you keep a cut from sales rather than a license fee. A major dev wants to make a $60 for it... fine let them release it there as well and keep a cut of the profit. If one of them do that they would win over the other and Smart-phones.

# Everything sucks! — Neil Young 2011-03-02 20:30

I support this young man's views. Smartphone technology on such hi tech hardware as the Ngage shall triumph over everything in the next few years.

# RE: Everything sucks! — yup 2011-05-09 15:53

dude the ngage failed horribly, what are you even talking about, yes smartphones have truly risen in the world (The U.S. a little later than most) but most of the apps that come out on these phones are total garbage, you and this whole bit are comparing apples to oranges

# RE: Might be right... — Karl B. 2011-03-02 22:49

I think this is one of the reasons why Sony put 3G and WiFi into the NGP. They want to increase the downloadable market on their handheld, that's for sure.

+2 # woah — mr.woah 2011-03-02 20:06

wtf all those apps on the app store are total crap. i've never heard of this guys company so his opinion is invaild. leave all the opinions to real game makers not some loser thats only good for making crappy apps.

# Agreed! — dumbfounded 2011-03-04 13:20

I checked out the " ngmoco:) " site (yes, that fracking smilie face is actually part of their company's name);
looks like they make Zynga knockoffs for your iDevices. And the art looks like guano.

Yup!

+3 # RE: PSP is done; NGP is dead on arrival; 3DS is gimmicky, says ngmoco boss — Jock_Nerd 2011-03-02 20:17

I've never heard of "ngmoco" or this guy before.

QJ, is this really newsworthy?

# hahaha — chuck.fx 2011-03-02 20:28

who cares what this asshole has to say? i have never heard of ngmoco, i had to google it and their games list sucks

i'll stick with EA, square enix, etc devs opinions thanks...

+3 # Rofl — Tenten 2011-03-02 20:31

Neil Young can suck my balls

-1 # Really? — Neil Young 2011-03-02 20:42

Is this for free or do I have to give you one of our amazing 3DS whopping apps?

+2 # RE: PSP is done; NGP is dead on arrival; 3DS is gimmicky, says ngmoco boss — Bored 2011-03-02 20:34

Sony has plety of good franchises such as Dissidia, God of War, Unchartered, Resistace, Metal Gear Solid, Monster Hunter Portable and with the ngp coming out all the franchises that were played on the ps3 can be played on the NGP

# RE: PSP is done; NGP is dead on arrival; 3DS is gimmicky, says ngmoco boss — 8675309 2011-03-02 21:20

i think its too late for a psp phone but yet their still doing it

# whatever i do what iwant haha — chrisk 2011-03-02 21:43

this guy is really thinking very small
i think he is very arrogant in his comments but beings that the ngp is not ment to be competeing with the smart phone market and more to compete in hand held gaming market i must say he is very small minded ive already pre ordered my ngp and as i am a consumer i beleive my doller speaks for me on its sucess now doesnt it

# RE: PSP is done; NGP is dead on arrival; 3DS is gimmicky, says ngmoco boss — Depetriu 2011-03-02 22:10

People get downdinged for praising a man unafraid to say the truth about a gaming industry that's changed drastically in the last 5 years.

Apple reinvented the field, and nobody saw it coming. Deal with it.

-1 # RE: RE: PSP is done; NGP is dead on arrival; 3DS is gimmicky, says ngmoco boss — xnamkcor 2011-03-03 01:24

Apple invented a new field. Fancied itself a competitor pf those in the real field, and is content with running around in its own self-made field, competing with itself, ignoring the real field.

+2 # They don't get it — Raccoon 2011-03-02 22:24

I keep hearing how handhelds are fearing the smartphones with their apps and cheap games..

But seriously, I have an iPhone and some games are fun, but I don't see anyone no-lifing those iPhone games. Also, the controls suck big time on most of em. For real control, you'll need a controller.

Smartphones vs Handhelds is like..
Pokemon/Monster Hunter vs Angry Birds.

Good fight xD

# My simple questions.. — Christian Banks 2011-03-02 22:25

why is this news?
why should I care what this guy thinks?
why does QJ shamelessly post bull?

# You got to be kidding me. — Darrell Johnson 2011-03-03 00:00

He actually thinks all of that crapware in the app store is good? At best, the games in the app store are good time wasters, nothing more.

# There difference here — Alex 2011-03-03 01:11

The difference here is there will be good quality games available on the NGP not shitty apps

# RE: PSP is done; NGP is dead on arrival; 3DS is gimmicky, says ngmoco boss — TheDestroyer101 2011-03-03 01:15

He's the one who'll be dead on arrival if he don't stop this crap. lol

+2 # RE: RE: PSP is done; NGP is dead on arrival; 3DS is gimmicky, says ngmoco boss — Linhat 2011-03-03 12:23

not really. its his opinion, and hes entitled to it. you cant threaten him to shut up.

+1 # RE: RE: RE: PSP is done; NGP is dead on arrival; 3DS is gimmicky, says ngmoco boss — xnamkcor 2011-03-03 16:05

He just did.

# Agreed! — dumbfounded 2011-03-04 13:33

Yeah, Alex totally just threatened that guy. I bet guy is now afraid of all people named Alex because he doesn't know which one will try to murder him...

... It wasn't a threat of violence. It's an old technique of generating humour in which person A takes a statement by person B about an object/person/concept/etc which A finds ludicrous (example 1: "This site is a piece of shit!") and replaces person B(or in more recent time, B's Mom) in the statement (example 1, cont.: "B ['s Mom] is a piece of shit!").

It has traditionally been a form of high-humour, reserved in Victorian times for the aristocracy, but made accessible to all at the American revolution. You should really learn your history! [The humour here derives from me making two ludicrous statements facetiously, fusing both dull ludicrosity with an ironic commentary on your ability to respond appropriately to low-brow humour]

# WAT???/REEaLLY...? — joeyr 2011-03-03 02:01

Are these people living under a rock for like the pass decade.

Why the hell the NGP have anything do with App gaming or completing.?

Is a freaking Portable hand-held game device.
It has its own games and Big ass named company developers support it.

Wait till it got H@CKed. and well see what cant this monster cannot do.
(People know Wat i m talking about.)

Having it able to include App games just a CHERRY On top of ice cream.

3DS..just mehhhh to me. i don't buy in to all these 3D concept. Now days with all these Movies and shows and Shit.t. just blablabbalablab . 3d this 3d that.
Well except for Avatar, pretty nice movie.(Not Air Bender LOL

)

i lol at idiots.

Yea, i also use Iph0ne. have Macs.

But this just like hearing some retard talking, because he just came out of hibernate under a freaking boulder.

# RE: PSP is done; NGP is dead on arrival; 3DS is gimmicky, says ngmoco boss — Cursemex 2011-03-03 03:31

I can't care less about apps, all I care about is the game titles that would be on the handheld.
KZ and MH and MGS and All other exclusives from the companies.
Heck, I'm not even a CoD fan but guess what? we're getting it.

# Huge company — Knutselmaaster 2011-03-03 04:23

They made some really great games over there (sic) http://www.ngmoco.com/games.php
Look how they try jumping on the wii wave by using "we" in front of the names of their games...

# RE: Huge company — CabbageKing 2011-03-03 04:32

I guess Farmville clones are "really high quality."

# I hate to say it... — Dark_Skai 2011-03-03 05:01

but I partially agree with this guy, his other statements though are just one sided and very... how do you say... spokesman like? Anyway no the NGP and 3DS aren't going to fail; they will never sell like the iPhone though since well the iPhone is... a phone... (for the most part), thing is not all users are gamers; hell even app users, I've seen multiple people still running an older iOS because they don't know how to update the thing or just dreads at the thought of using iTunes (even though they have an iPhone...), anyway the statement I agree with is about the apps, while I'd like to think we gamers generally know what games are "quality" games, other people don't, and its those people that skyrocket the sales of apps, point being is we will probably see lots of "app" like games for the NGP and I would think the 3DS also, cause you know what? If 1 dollar apps keep churning revenue for apple and developers, game companies are going to want that piece of the pie too.

# RE: PSP is done; NGP is dead on arrival; 3DS is gimmicky, says ngmoco boss — Bloggy 2011-03-03 05:08

Apps are cool and all but the replay value suck's compared to a real game. NPG all the way! i wonder if they will have netflixs on the ngp?......

# He might be right.... or not... — Valerian Knight 2011-03-03 05:29

Questions.. you answer if this guy is right or wrong. The more the numbers the more chances of winning in this battle.

1.) App Price : 1 to 2 dollar apps VS full blown console game.

Question1: What do you prefer and what kind of gamer you are? Casual Gaming Apps or Full Blown Hardcore Games?

Question2: How many consumers are there that prefers these type of gaming? (Casual VS Hardcore)

2.) Current Installed based : Casual based gamer using phone VS Hardcore Gamer using a portable machine dedicated for gaming.

Question3: How many can that installed based be after several years? Who's installed based will grow faster?

3.) System Platform Price : High-End Phone Price VS (NextGen)Portab le Gaming Machine Price.

Quistion4: What machine do you prefer to use and purpose?

Full Blown Portable Gaming Machine or Phone apps with call capability?

It will decide if the NGP will be able to conquer the casual gamer cloud and dominate at the same time the hardcore gaming cloud in the future... or not.. or dead on arrival.. =(

# RE: PSP is done; NGP is dead on arrival; 3DS is gimmicky, says ngmoco boss — lalalala 2011-03-03 05:47

Let's see what he failed to mention..

Hard core gaming.
Fan boys.
Casual gaming.
Mobile gaming.
PSN.
PSN Minis.

any other?

This guy is over generalizing things..

+1 # RE: PSP is done; NGP is dead on arrival; 3DS is gimmicky, says ngmoco boss — Keith_ 2011-03-03 06:06

""It's really difficult to compete with an app store that has hundreds of thousands of applications"

yeah, and probably 90% of those apps are either a duplicate of another app, are something you would never need to do on a PSP (like a 'reorder my contact lenses' app), or they just plain suck.

sorry apple, quantity does not equal quality.

-1 # RE: PSP is done; NGP is dead on arrival; 3DS is gimmicky, says ngmoco boss — NakedFaerie 2011-03-03 06:48

The PSP is dead and the NGP is dead on arrival.
$ony suck and they will continue to suck and sales will prove this.
I was a launch day buyer of $ony products till they ban my account. Sorry $ony but you ban me and I do the same. I will NEVER buy another $ony product and I know there are many others in the same boat as me.

+2 # RE: RE: PSP is done; NGP is dead on arrival; 3DS is gimmicky, says ngmoco boss — mass23 2011-03-03 07:10

You obviously did something stupid like hack your console. They wont ban you for no reason. All Sony is doing is protecting their products.

# RE: RE: PSP is done; NGP is dead on arrival; 3DS is gimmicky, says ngmoco boss — derpdeherp 2011-03-03 07:52

See what xnamkcor meant?
This is a comment you'd expect from THIS guy.

# RE: PSP is done; NGP is dead on arrival; 3DS is gimmicky, says ngmoco boss — HangmanSwingset 2011-03-03 08:30

K, my girlfriend and I were addicted to Godfinger for a while, but the stupid "Download this FREE app and get free awe" offers never worked so I gave up on it. Shortly after she gave up.

I do think the NGP will be dead on arrival, but people will still buy it and it won't be realized until people who buy it realize it's another PSP Go.

As for the 3DS, I only have 3 words to sell it to most people: Ocarina of Time.

# RE: RE: PSP is done; NGP is dead on arrival; 3DS is gimmicky, says ngmoco boss — Linhat 2011-03-03 12:22

And i have three words to say to you about OOTDS: Really Bad Graphics.

# RE: PSP is done; NGP is dead on arrival; 3DS is gimmicky, says ngmoco boss — shadow71 2011-03-03 11:30

Who the hell is ngmoco?

# RE: PSP is done; NGP is dead on arrival; 3DS is gimmicky, says ngmoco boss — DarkPhoenix07 2011-03-03 12:06

Yes exactly! who the hell is ngmoco? A Fool who talks about something he is not familiar with. And that's why his company is not even known cause fools like him.

-1 # RE: PSP is done; NGP is dead on arrival; 3DS is gimmicky, says ngmoco boss — Linhat 2011-03-03 12:17

Im sorry to everyone but I agree 100% with this guy. The PSP was pretty much over after the PSPgo came out, and now theyre bringing a new "PSP" out called Next Generation Portable, which is exactly the same as a PSPgo, only its the same size as a PSP3K (about) and it has fancy things like better graphics, touch pad shit and dual analog sticks (which is the only good thing about it). And on the 3DS's main feature being gimmicky? 100% correct in my opinion. Neil, youre my bro. i may have never played one of your companies games but i stand by your opinion. To be honest, i personally think the 3DS is just Nintendo's way of selling all the Virtual Boys they have leftover in their back cupboards. Screw the new generation of gaming, its shit. (inb4 a load of people come along and screw up everything i just said)

# RE: RE: PSP is done; NGP is dead on arrival; 3DS is gimmicky, says ngmoco boss — yup 2011-05-09 16:10

you are a complete idiot, the NGP is not just a bunch of "fancy" gizmos. its called innovation. what handheld have you seen that can produce similar quality that of a ps3. NONE. what handheld uses a capacitive touch pad in the back to utilize in games like uncharted. NONE. yes the touch screen feature has been seen before in a smartphone, but have you seen an epic game come out on a smartphone? NO! Y? because smartphones do not have quad core cpus and do not have the power to run games that of the NGP. take your iphone and shove it. id rather spend 60 dollars on a great game than a buck on a completely pointless and shitty app. hense why most game devs stay out of the smartphone market, because there isnt enough power nor innovation nor control in a smartphone, i hate shooters on a touchscreen smartphone.

# RE: PSP is done; NGP is dead on arrival; 3DS is gimmicky, says ngmoco boss — Linhat 2011-03-03 12:21

although, then again, i dont think that the 3ds and ngp will exactly be dead on arrival. they will still get huge amounts of sales no matter what people say.

+1 # RE: PSP is done; NGP is dead on arrival; 3DS is gimmicky, says ngmoco boss — DeltaDAWG 2011-03-03 13:27

Different strokes for different folks.

All I know is, I love Nintendo games so the 3DS is a must for me. Mario, Zelda, Metroid...I can never get enough. Plus, with my iPad and iPhone....no need at all for the NGP. But that's just me.

-2 # RE: RE: PSP is done; NGP is dead on arrival; 3DS is gimmicky, says ngmoco boss — tofu 2011-03-06 23:17

Sounds like nintendo and apple have total control over your free money. That's not just dumb, it's totally moronic.

+1 # RE: RE: RE: PSP is done; NGP is dead on arrival; 3DS is gimmicky, says ngmoco boss — DeltaDAWG 2011-03-17 11:55

Free money? No such thing. In fact that's an oxyMORON.

At any rate, yeah, you must be right. They get every dollar I make. After all I live in the street, have no electricity to run my gadgets. Yeah, you make total sense.

# Ehh... — ZenithSage 2011-03-03 17:13

It doesn't matter. I hate i-anything, period. Will be picking up both the 3DS and NGP, peace.

# RE: PSP is done; NGP is dead on arrival; 3DS is gimmicky, says ngmoco boss — Waaaa? 2011-03-03 18:49

OMG and he is the ceo or whatever? xD

Jeeez what a bunghole.Me thinks this guy must have been born last week....

# Sasuke082594(PS N) — Richard Vargas 2011-03-03 19:26

wtf i dont even know why theyre running there mouths if they cant even make good games let alone support them(ahem... eliminate... ahem)

# um.... — K66 2011-03-04 02:36

I for one have never been a fan of phone apps. Regardless of how great they are, they just can't replace dedicated gaming devices for me. I love my PSP, I love my DS. I don't like either more than the other. Both are great and have titles that I enjoy playing. Phantasy Star, Monster Hunter on PSP, DQIX, Professor Layton, etc.. on DS. IMO phone apps on android and iphone are more gimmicky than anything else. See Angry Birds... you shoot birds and people like that game??? I've played it but can't really comprehend why people like that game...

# RE: PSP is done; NGP is dead on arrival; 3DS is gimmicky, says ngmoco boss — Djhg2000 2011-03-04 08:36

# reality check — Planet earth 2011-03-04 22:23

This guy will be debunked when the next generation systems are launched. How do you play god of war on an IPHONE? How do you see the screen when you have to touch it to control the characters? I find that the psp is the greatest handheld system ever created and the NGP is the next iteration of "top of the line." The 12 good apps from the thousands of loser apps on the app store will be ported to a real system or an app emulator will handle that problem. 3ds will be cool and Apple will copy Nintendo with the Iphone 5 3d.

# RE: PSP is done; NGP is dead on arrival; 3DS is gimmicky, says ngmoco boss — childrenboy 2011-03-07 10:53

THATS WHY CFW ROCK THE WORLD!!! I REALLY MEANT THE WORLD!!! DOWN UR SECURITIES, LET THOSE INDIE dev(HACKERS) DO YOUR JOB IDIOTS!!!

# best think sony made... — injectedpain 2011-03-29 01:56

the fucking console is awsome

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUqD8zJJCZ0&feature=player_profilepage

# RE: PSP is done; NGP is dead on arrival; 3DS is gimmicky, says ngmoco boss — Dub 2011-03-30 07:57

People still use apple muck? What a shame.

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