Posted Jun 04, 2006 at 04:33AM by Alaric S. Listed in: Wii, PlayStation 3, PSP, Xbox 360, MMORPG Tags: ESA, Tim Pawlenty, Jeff Johnson
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tim pawlentyMinnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty signed into law Republican Representative Jeff Johnson's HF1298 bill. The new law, which takes effect on August 1 2006, penalizes underage gamers who buy video games carrying Mature (M) or Adults Only (AO) ratings with a $25 fine. However, convictions for this offense would not go on the child's record. The law also legally requires video game retail outlets to put up signs that explain the ESRB rating system. As expected, the Governor got "pawlenty" of flack from those who opposed the bill.

News of the passage of the new law triggered a swift and critical response from the Entertainment Software Association (ESA) which announced plans to file a suit against the state. The group also issued a strongly worded statement saying they were "deeply disappointed" with the Minnesota legislature and Governor Pawlenty.

"We believe that SF 785 is unnecessary and will restrict the First Amendment rights of Minnesota’s citizens." ESA said. "We hope that sooner or later state legislators and candidates will stop trying to seek headlines by subverting the constitution and frittering away desperately needed taxpayer dollars and instead enter into a constructive partnership to educate parents about the tools available so they, not government, can raise their kids as they see fit and buy the games that are right for their unique families."

ESA is the trade association of the computer and video game industry in the US and counts most of the top video game publishers in the gaming world members including Activision, Atari, Buena Vista Games, Capcom, Crave Entertainment, Eidos Interactive, Electronic Arts, Her Interactive, id Software, Konami, LucasArts, Microsoft Corporation, Midway Games, Namco, Nintendo, NovaLogic, SEGA, Sony Computer Entertainment, Square Enix, Take Two Interactive, THQ, Ubisoft, Vivendi Universal Games, Warner Bros. Interactive and Wild Tangent.


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   by someone (Unregistered) - 2006-06-04
 » Wow...

That has got to be one of the stupidest laws ever. I hope the ESA succeeds in fighting this.

   by . (Unregistered) - 2006-06-04
 » .

what a *****. its as bad as arny saying that videogames are too violent.

   by Fanjita - 2006-06-04
 » The reaction to all this puzzles me

Presumably you have laws in the US restricting minors' access to mature-rated movies, right?

So why are videogames different? If all it took to get the likes of Jack Thompson to shut up was to actually respect the age ratings given to games, wouldn't that be worth it?

Why is it right that a 5-year-old should be allowed to buy a zombie gore-fest like Resident Evil?

It just seems strange to me that gamers in the US seem hell-bent on the right of their kids to buy inappropriate games.

   by joe (Unregistered) - 2006-06-04
 » Good stuff

I don't see anything wrong with this law. Kids shouldn't be playing violent video games anyway. YEA that's what I said, I'm ready to hear the flamming...

   by n00bi3 (Unregistered) - 2006-06-04
 » wtf

geez hope this doesnt go to aus man i feel srry anyways STOCK UP ON VIOLENCE GAMES BEFORE THE AUGUST 1st

   by plastik - 2006-06-04
 » Huh?

So underage kids are currently allowed to my adult rated games in the US? Thats crazy. In the UK and in loads of other countries, if you're under 18 you CANNOT buy an 18 (equivalent of AO in the US) rated game. That seems fair, if I want an 18 rated game I just ask my parents to buy it. I don't get what the fuss is about. Im pretty sure in the US that you can't buy certain films if you're too young, so why should games be different?

   by vans1170 - 2006-06-04
 » FINALLY!

SOMEONE GETS IT!
Thank you ESA!

   by Rags - 2006-06-04
 » I'm tired of these *****s.

I don't see where games affect young ppl or any other media for that fact, I was 3 and played bio menace I was 7 and played diablo and I was like 13 or 15 and played GTA, you expect me to wait one more year until I turn 18 to acctualy be able to play these games, I was never affected in a negative way by these games.

I said this more than once and I will say it again, the problem is that stupid kids shouldn't be able to play these games, I'm not stupid enough to go around killing people, and even if I did I wouldn't be stupid enough to do it like that guy.

If these people actually played games they would know for a fact that if you kill someone no-one knows about it it's crucial (Hitman anyone?), and where does a 16 year old get a gun please tell me because if 16 year olds can get guns than maybe games are not your biggest problem here.

I'm glad I played all those games, most of them I could only play next year and maybe then they would not be as much as fun.

Going back a little peaople are stupid, a person that cannot distinguish real from fantasy is just stupid and should not be allowed to have a GUN. I have a lot of friends that played games that are for ages above them and they didn't kill anyone, they didn't torture anyone. What the ***** is wrong with you, go find an ***** like this and give them a weapon, yeah now that is smart, hey he killed someone, it's because he played violent games, not because he had a wepon and was completely out of is mind confusing fantasy with reality.

oh and sorry for the long speech but these things piss me of.

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   by johantheolive - 2006-06-04
 » This changes what?

How the hell do they expect to uphold this law? Place a cop outside every store that sells video games? Not to mention that if this doesn't go on any record then how can they expect a kid to pay? I'm all for keeping inappropriate games out of the hands of kids, but how does slapping them with a $25 charge do anything? As I said, I don't think kids belong playing GTA or such (I'm talking about an 8-10 year old; if you're thinking a 13-14 year old I don't have much objection to them playing GTA) but there will always be that kid who finds his daddy's Playboy before he knows what to do with it.

   by 1st amendement (Unregistered) - 2006-06-04
 » Fanjita....

...here is why. In the US, we have a little thing called the constitution, which grants citizens freedoms. Freedoms of speech and freedoms of expression.

I have a three year old daughter. Would i let her play GTA? Nope. Should the government say she absolutely cannot play the game? Nope. That happening stops my right to be a parent and her right to choose. Is there any evidence that a child raised playing violent video games is more likely to be violent in reality? If not, then there should be no state tort imposed restrictions.

Are we to allow them to install cameras infront of the computer so they can monitor what she watches and turn it off if its been rated above a certain subjective maturity level? I hope to God not.

   by Branden - 2006-06-04
 » Just bring ur dad

Thats bull. just bring ur parents to the game store problem solved. They cant stopu if ur dad is there with u.

   by unknown (Unregistered) - 2006-06-04
 » waste of time.....

WOOOOOW!!!!They would go as far as fining kids for their games....Well,why dont you go after the "violent" television shows that depicts violence in REALITY and get off your rags!!! Now thats the craziest f#####g thing ive ever heard!!!

   by Giuliano (Unregistered) - 2006-06-04
 » not a bad law

Actually this is a great law.. The first law that was put into place in some other state, can't remember which, that said "no games with violence towards humans" could be sold to minors was silly. Zelda could be considered violent towards humans and that is a game partly geared towards kids. However, this law takes in the ESRB rating system and only prohibits the sale of Mature or Adults Only games.

Similarly, kids can not go into certain movies WITHOUT their parents buying them the tickets or going along with them. This is almost the same. Your kids can still play those games but the parents will have to buy it for them.

With today's technology (such as the PSP), it can even be difficult for parents to know if a kid bought a game they shouldn't have. Only way the kid can be caught is if the parents see them playing.

Moreover, it makes the parents be a little more part of the whole video game world. If they have to go to the store they are more likely to be informed and make better parenting decisions, where if there was no such law in place they might just give their kids money and let them buy whatever they want.

This isn't a law on our first amendment and if you think it is then you must really think the gov't is out to get you. Most laws like this don't bother people with an intelligence :)

   by N,W,O (Unregistered) - 2006-06-04
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   by . (Unregistered) - 2006-06-04
 » .

stupid law. doesnt really do anything thats not being done now. for as long as the esrb ratings have been around. it has always been illegal to sell a m or ao rated game to a child.

but indeed there is absolutely nothing that can done if the parent buys it for their children. however the posting of esrb rating signs in all stores that sell video games is genius. i hardly ever see them except maybe in walmart where a sticker is pasted to the glass. but in depth descriptions are needed, whereas its only a few words describing what the rating means. too bad not too many parents care anyway. this law is bull*****. it does nothing to stop violent videogames from being in the hands of a child. absolutely nothing. it should be fought. and countered with something more relevant.

   by SG57 (Unregistered) - 2006-06-04
 » ya...

You show them ESA, no one will be stopping the Video Game violence as long as there is the right to freedom of speech.

Stick that in your pipe and smoke it...

   by 1.5owner - 2006-06-04
 » governmental involvement in video game censorship to minors

it sucks. Why must the government try so hard to parent the children. well, i think that the government should get out of parents' business. Hey, maybe there should be a "parents against jack" forum

Way to go ESA! The government too often regulates what children do. Meanwhile, adults, who may be bums or be on steroids, are allowed to buy violent video games

guess what another attack on video games is out there? Apparently, microsoft flight simulator trained the 9/11 hijackers, according to a guy who presented at my school! Shoulda got his name...now games that are too realistic like sims should be destroyed

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   by Dave (Unregistered) - 2006-06-04
 » This isn't that bad

If you read it, it says if the minor BUYS the game. Children shouldn't have access to these games with an adult. If the parent lets them play it, then its fine.

Now, if it were just for possessing it, then there would be a serious breach of freedom.

   by unknown (Unregistered) - 2006-06-04
 » If this passes, all hell is here

Let's say that I'm 8 years old. I watch t.v. all the time and all I see is the War in Iraq. Since I'm taking in all this, I want to go get a gun and start shooting all the Arabs in the United States. Now wait, Our government is the one that allowed me to be influenced by all the media in Iraq. So our government needs to be fined $25.00 for this and since they are adults allowing this they should be imprisoned also.
I forgot I was talking about our government, where everything that they do is not wrong. (LIKE THAT IS TRUE)!!!!!!!!!

It all comes down to the parent that wants to be an adult,and to teach the child what is right and wrong.

This is only another way for our government to get more money from us and to keep us poor and confused.
Example== It is legal for me to make a porn video business as long as I pay the government taxes on what I gross. But it is illegal for me to have a woman to go on the street and sell herself, because I'm not giving money to the government.
Example== It is legal for me to buy cigarettes and smoke them because they made tax money from the company. But it is illegal for me to smoke in public because they say it is bad for others. So they make a new law if in public smoking than you will be fined.

IT IS ALL ABOUT THE POWER AND MONEY. MAYBE IN 100 YEARS FROM NOW WITH ALL THE LAWS THAT ARE BEING MADE TODAY IN U.S.A. WE THE PEOPLE WILL HAVE A NEW SAYING (WE THE GOVERNMENT SLAVES HAVE NO RIGHTS)

OPEN YOUR EYES PEOPLE AND SPEAK OUT NOW. THESE ARE OUR FREEDOMS THAT THEY WANT FULL CONTROL OF.






   by 1pwnj00 (Unregistered) - 2006-06-04
 » learn your ish, you people...

MPAA(Motion Picture Association of America)'s rating system enforcement is not a law, NATO (national association of theater owners) and other associations use it voluntarilly. Why would video game ratings be any different from movie ratings. There are no laws governing the viewing of movies, as there shouldn't be. This goes the same with the video game industry.

learn your ish.

I used to be a theater manager. by the way.

   by Toaster99 - 2006-06-04
 » come on...

its a game....its animated...BIG DEAL. Violent video games prepare minors (13+) for the real world. They get to experince violence and it also lets them release stress. Ive known some kids that werent allowed to watch PG13 or play "violent" video games, and they where pretty screwed up. If all this makes no sense then ignore me I just woke up lol

   by Fabbyfubz (Unregistered) - 2006-06-04
 » 2+2=4

We have a lot of dumb laws here in MN, we can't even use real Fireworks.

   by masr1979 - 2006-06-04
 » Let's think about it

The goverment isn't actually trying to raise your kids; it's just trying to get you to get a little more involved. I believe in freedom of speach, but as someone here said there are some people that lack the capacity to distinguis reality from fantasy; although, In my opinion most of them are just cowards that don't want to take responsabilty for their actions, and blame video games after being caught. Anyways is it really that bad that parents have to buy their kids a violent game in order for them to play it? All of you might be doing a great job raising your kids, and so you feel confortable with them playing violent games because your sure they won't go shooting up your neighbors and such, but there are people that don't give a sh*t about their own kids. These kids have probably not been taught right and wrong as well as others, so they are the ones that need this. For their sake let's bare with this.

   by fightlight (Unregistered) - 2006-06-04
 » thats...

At least bush doesnt give *** on video games

   by Papa Lazarou (Unregistered) - 2006-06-04
 » .

ha, i have been ordering certificate 18 games online since i was 11

   by BRUTALBISHOP - 2006-06-04
 » WE CANT CONTROL THIS...SO WE'LL CONTROLL THAT

All the goverment is saying is that they can't controll videogame retailers or gun distributers so they'll go to where the problems not at.AND WHILE WERE AT IT WE'LL GIVE OUT $25 FINES TO HELP WITH THE TRILLION DOLLAR BUGET DEFICIT WE'VE CREATED WITH ALL THE OTHER STUPID UNECESSARY DECISIONS WEV'E MADE.

A little word of advice stop letting guns rome so freely,stop letting drugs enter our country like they have passports' put more effort towards our youth with programs and training for there future.And stop nic picking on crap that's not responsible for the mess that's been caused by your departments own stupidity and iggnorrance

   by Dwill (Unregistered) - 2006-06-04
 » I hate out govenor

WHY WOULD HE PASS THIS LAW I LIKE JESSE VENTURA WAY BETTTTTA.

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   by metalspector (Unregistered) - 2006-06-04
 » We gotta face it

Our country ( or colonial power for me cause we are their colony ) sucks , to many restrictions and they don't change anything , I had a friend on messenger from Japan which I met him on runescape ( I got addicted to that game for 4 months ) and he tells me that he sees 7 year old kids buying a GTA game like normal and there in Japan the homicidal quote is around 40 a year , compare it to USA's 12,000 homicides a year. This shows that the problem is not the videogames but let's think what the USA has that Japan doesn't :
1. Military
2. Bad government

Those are the real problems , how they affect it's gonna take more than 50 pages to explain ( a tesis cuz it involves many undirect effects ) but it's true.

   by wtf (Unregistered) - 2006-06-04
 » ...

Jesse Ventura was a dumbass.

Why is anybody against this law? It's just a penalty for something that's already illegal- yet there's no punishment yet.


Oh, right, you're all 12 year olds.

I forgot.


Carry on!

   by soapinmouth - 2006-06-04
 » ok this is how it gos here in the us

if you want to buy an M game you have to have a parent with you, wich is a little annyoying but fine. Now they are trying to make it illeagel for a minor to buy it at all. I'm 16 and you think the government is a better parent than my own, than thats you messed up problem.



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