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As the fifth in the series of the Xfire Debate Club: The Two-Handed Sword discussion of gaming community issues, Xfire will be tackling the ongoing battle between Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft over the console arena. And prepping up for a serious and formal discussion, Xfire has invited a series of guests for the heated debate on who will eventually win the next-generation console wars. |
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by AoxomamoxoA - 2007-06-07 |
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» Im calling it now, place your bets!
What console is the best value? Xbox 360 ... Equal graphics to the PS3 minus 200 for a BR player.
Which has the best online play? Xbox 360 ... Live has a great community of over 7million users. Most games are multiplayer and all are Live enabled.
Which will you be playing a year from now? No comment ... This question is all per preferences of the individual.
Which console has the best exclusive games? Again, all comes down to taste. But I would choose Xbox 360 yet again ... Just got Shadowrun and its addictively fun.
What console is the best value? Xbox 360 ... Equal graphics to the PS3 minus 200 for a BR player.
Which has the best online play? Xbox 360 ... Live has a great community of over 7million users. Most games are multiplayer and all are Live enabled.
Which will you be playing a year from now? No comment ... This question is all per preferences of the individual.
Which console has the best exclusive games? Again, all comes down to taste. But I would choose Xbox 360 yet again ... Just got Shadowrun and its addictively fun.
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Re: KUYA (Unregistered) - 2007-06-08 |
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» late late late
the consoles wars has been going on almost a year or 2 now. microsoft is winning the hardcore/softcore players, nintendo is winning the parents and neighbors, and Sony is winning the wisest peoples that thinks ahead and bought an all in one entertainment solution.
the consoles wars has been going on almost a year or 2 now. microsoft is winning the hardcore/softcore players, nintendo is winning the parents and neighbors, and Sony is winning the wisest peoples that thinks ahead and bought an all in one entertainment solution.
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Re: Mister Common Sense - 2007-06-09 |
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» KUYA!
You say the "wisest peoples that thinks ahead" bought an "all in one entertainment solution", but when was there an entertainment problem?
By waiting until now I got a stand alone HD-DVD player for $300 + my XBOX is $700 which I can move one into the other room if I want. By having a seperate game console and movie player they last longer too. My PS2 crapped out in 2 years partially because I always watched DVDs on it as well as played games.
Nothing but a stupid article that will spark stupid debate.
You say the "wisest peoples that thinks ahead" bought an "all in one entertainment solution", but when was there an entertainment problem?
By waiting until now I got a stand alone HD-DVD player for $300 + my XBOX is $700 which I can move one into the other room if I want. By having a seperate game console and movie player they last longer too. My PS2 crapped out in 2 years partially because I always watched DVDs on it as well as played games.
Nothing but a stupid article that will spark stupid debate.
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by yeahwhatever (Unregistered) - 2007-06-07 |
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» lol
great, another fuel to the fire. this is why the world is engulf in terror and insecurity. everyone wants to debate on everything even the kitchen sink. just shut up and play what you want, is it that hard to do a simple thing as that?
great, another fuel to the fire. this is why the world is engulf in terror and insecurity. everyone wants to debate on everything even the kitchen sink. just shut up and play what you want, is it that hard to do a simple thing as that?
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by king kacorot (Unregistered) - 2007-06-07 |
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» get with the times , and get out of the stone age.
flame under nintendo's butt to imbrace a external hdd and online multiplayer and metroid better b 10 v10 online multiplayer and any thing less is not exeptible, period.
flame under nintendo's butt to imbrace a external hdd and online multiplayer and metroid better b 10 v10 online multiplayer and any thing less is not exeptible, period.
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Re: Eclipze_ (Unregistered) - 2007-06-07 |
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» king kacorot
Or how bout 20 vs 20 in resistance with internal but removeable hdd,...u got past da ice age not da stone buddy
Or how bout 20 vs 20 in resistance with internal but removeable hdd,...u got past da ice age not da stone buddy
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by king kacorot (Unregistered) - 2007-06-07 |
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» get with the times , and get out of the stone age.
flame under nintendo's butt to imbrace a external hdd and online multiplayer and metroid better b 10 v10 online multiplayer and any thing less is not exeptible, period.
flame under nintendo's butt to imbrace a external hdd and online multiplayer and metroid better b 10 v10 online multiplayer and any thing less is not exeptible, period.
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by hah (Unregistered) - 2007-06-07 |
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» hah
Which console is the best value? PS3
Which has the best online play? 360 now, PS3 when home is out
Which will you still be playing a year from now? PS3
Who has the best exclusive games? PS3
Debate over. Anyone care to debate? You won't win anyway.
Which console is the best value? PS3
Which has the best online play? 360 now, PS3 when home is out
Which will you still be playing a year from now? PS3
Who has the best exclusive games? PS3
Debate over. Anyone care to debate? You won't win anyway.
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Re: Extinction (Unregistered) - 2007-06-07 |
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» I agree
Even as a die hard PS3 lover, I agree with the 360 part too
Even as a die hard PS3 lover, I agree with the 360 part too
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Re: Eclipze_ (Unregistered) - 2007-06-07 |
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» Das true but...
da ps3s getting there good exclusive later this year, 360 already has sum right now... but its only a matter of time
da ps3s getting there good exclusive later this year, 360 already has sum right now... but its only a matter of time
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Re: Al For Bet (Unregistered) - 2007-06-08 |
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» ???
"Which has the best online play? 360 now, PS3 when home is out"
What has Home got to do with online PLAY?
"Which has the best online play? 360 now, PS3 when home is out"
What has Home got to do with online PLAY?
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Re: VSG (Unregistered) - 2007-06-08 |
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» of course
XBOX 360,
MODCHIP it,
download game copies off the NG and burn to Disc
or buy burned copies, i order them from shhhh just 5-6 bucks each.
who cares about online, i have the complete xbox 360 game library, 92 percent CRAP games, 3 percent good quality FPS, and 2 percent good quality Driving Games. and most good games are ports from PC.
XBOX 360,
MODCHIP it,
download game copies off the NG and burn to Disc
or buy burned copies, i order them from shhhh just 5-6 bucks each.
who cares about online, i have the complete xbox 360 game library, 92 percent CRAP games, 3 percent good quality FPS, and 2 percent good quality Driving Games. and most good games are ports from PC.
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Re: the legend of me (Unregistered) - 2007-06-08 |
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» 95%
so wot about the other 3%. dum dum
so wot about the other 3%. dum dum
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Re: Mister Common Sense (Unregistered) - 2007-06-08 |
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» What has Home got to do with online PLAY?
Home's API will be made available to developers. You will be able to matchmake and initiate games from within Home.
These functions will also be available from the XMB (outside of Home)
Home's API will be made available to developers. You will be able to matchmake and initiate games from within Home.
These functions will also be available from the XMB (outside of Home)
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by Value PS3 hands down (Unregistered) - 2007-06-07 |
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» Value PS3 hands down
for $600 you get a next gen console argue it better or equal to 360 graphics. a 360 is $400 and Ps3 $600
PS3 GIVES YOU
Blu Ray
Wifi Built in
Memcard Reader
HDMI 1.3
60gb hdd (WHICH IS EXPANDABLE WITH ANY BRAND HDD)
360 GIVES YOU
20gb hdd
ELITE GIVES YOU
HDMI 1.1
For $200 a blu ray player and built in wifi is damn cheap then you get hdmi. Also 360 has an addon HD dvd how much of a pain is an addon? Needs its own power supply to.
for $600 you get a next gen console argue it better or equal to 360 graphics. a 360 is $400 and Ps3 $600
PS3 GIVES YOU
Blu Ray
Wifi Built in
Memcard Reader
HDMI 1.3
60gb hdd (WHICH IS EXPANDABLE WITH ANY BRAND HDD)
360 GIVES YOU
20gb hdd
ELITE GIVES YOU
HDMI 1.1
For $200 a blu ray player and built in wifi is damn cheap then you get hdmi. Also 360 has an addon HD dvd how much of a pain is an addon? Needs its own power supply to.
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Re: Eclipze_ (Unregistered) - 2007-06-07 |
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» Plus on da price
400$ plus online. and blu-ray players cost about 1,000 dollars so...hell yea a ps3 is pretty cheap 4 what it has inside
400$ plus online. and blu-ray players cost about 1,000 dollars so...hell yea a ps3 is pretty cheap 4 what it has inside
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Re: polo (Unregistered) - 2007-06-08 |
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» DvD
my 360 upscales dvds so me need your BR player
my 360 upscales dvds so me need your BR player
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Re: meee (Unregistered) - 2007-06-08 |
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» sorry polo
upscaled dvd dont even look close to as good as bluray or hddvd's and id say ps3 has best value 360 has best online play id see my self playing ps3 a eyar from now because afetr halo and masseffect come out i dont see anything else as i am not a gear fan and i do own both consoles
upscaled dvd dont even look close to as good as bluray or hddvd's and id say ps3 has best value 360 has best online play id see my self playing ps3 a eyar from now because afetr halo and masseffect come out i dont see anything else as i am not a gear fan and i do own both consoles
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Re: KUYA (Unregistered) - 2007-06-08 |
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» to mr value PS3 hands down
stop doing this blah blah thing,
you can do this on every forum/board and theyou will just annoy most people and make the PS3 look bad.
we all know these FACTS.
xbots will not listen whatever we say.
like us they value their choice of brand.
lucky for us we have something valuable and doesnt easily die, shows all BD movies in 1080p, free online, games are alloted 25-50gb so no game companies will have to suffer and cut down games, etc. anyways let them just support their beloved xbox 360,we are not the ones worrying about RROD, we are not the ones paying 6 dollars for song packs, 10 dollars for the revolutionary pacman, 100 dollars for wifi, 90 bucks for 20gb HDD, 180 bucks for 120gb HDD, wifi controllers. and we dont need to pay subscription to online community service.
stop doing this blah blah thing,
you can do this on every forum/board and theyou will just annoy most people and make the PS3 look bad.
we all know these FACTS.
xbots will not listen whatever we say.
like us they value their choice of brand.
lucky for us we have something valuable and doesnt easily die, shows all BD movies in 1080p, free online, games are alloted 25-50gb so no game companies will have to suffer and cut down games, etc. anyways let them just support their beloved xbox 360,we are not the ones worrying about RROD, we are not the ones paying 6 dollars for song packs, 10 dollars for the revolutionary pacman, 100 dollars for wifi, 90 bucks for 20gb HDD, 180 bucks for 120gb HDD, wifi controllers. and we dont need to pay subscription to online community service.
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Re: na2ru1 (Unregistered) - 2007-06-08 |
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» ELITE360 gives wot???
ONLY HDMI 1.1. Very future proof.
PS3 way ahead of things whereas 360s 2nd attempt not even keepin up.
PS3 has no threat since 360 doesnt have HDDVD/blurray integrated.
ONLY HDMI 1.1. Very future proof.
PS3 way ahead of things whereas 360s 2nd attempt not even keepin up.
PS3 has no threat since 360 doesnt have HDDVD/blurray integrated.
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by qw (Unregistered) - 2007-06-07 |
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» Wow
Damn, I consider myself a nerd, but an xfire debate club? Now that is nerdy
I guess for me it'd go like this
Best value: Not sure exactly what this means, if it means how much playtime you'll get out of the thing and fun you'll have with it ATM it's the 360 by far, if you're talking about best price for what you get it's obviously the PS3. You're getting about $1400 worth of electronics in a $600 package
Best online play: 360 by far, the PlayStation Network doesn't even compare to Xbox Live, and I guess it's just my opinion but Home doesn't really interest me so I don't think anything is going to change on that front
Still be playing a year from now: Since I'll probably have a PS3 a year from now (since games will actually be out by then) I'll be playing all three. Some amazing games will be out for all systems a year from now
Best exclusive games: This is all preference, since I don't care at all for most of Sony's franchises (FF (well not Sony's but still), Clank, Jak, etc.) it's the 360 for me. Again, all preference however
Damn, I consider myself a nerd, but an xfire debate club? Now that is nerdy
I guess for me it'd go like this
Best value: Not sure exactly what this means, if it means how much playtime you'll get out of the thing and fun you'll have with it ATM it's the 360 by far, if you're talking about best price for what you get it's obviously the PS3. You're getting about $1400 worth of electronics in a $600 package
Best online play: 360 by far, the PlayStation Network doesn't even compare to Xbox Live, and I guess it's just my opinion but Home doesn't really interest me so I don't think anything is going to change on that front
Still be playing a year from now: Since I'll probably have a PS3 a year from now (since games will actually be out by then) I'll be playing all three. Some amazing games will be out for all systems a year from now
Best exclusive games: This is all preference, since I don't care at all for most of Sony's franchises (FF (well not Sony's but still), Clank, Jak, etc.) it's the 360 for me. Again, all preference however
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by .. (Unregistered) - 2007-06-08 |
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» ..
Xbox 360 exclusives:
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Dead rising
Lost planey
Test drive
gears of war
kameo
viva pinata
C&C3
Shadow run
halo3
blue dragon
lost odyssey
trust bell: copin no yume
mass effect
Ps3 can't compare in means of exclusives, sure its better price and i'll be playing it in a years time but no one can say right now it has more exclusives than xbox 360.. I mean the DS has better games than the ps3 right now.
Xbox 360 exclusives:
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Dead rising
Lost planey
Test drive
gears of war
kameo
viva pinata
C&C3
Shadow run
halo3
blue dragon
lost odyssey
trust bell: copin no yume
mass effect
Ps3 can't compare in means of exclusives, sure its better price and i'll be playing it in a years time but no one can say right now it has more exclusives than xbox 360.. I mean the DS has better games than the ps3 right now.
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Re: Ludikhris (Unregistered) - 2007-06-08 |
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» 360's exclusives
Many of those games are now going to be thrown into the "multi platform" category now. 360 was the only system out when the first versions of many of those games came out. Gears for instance will probably port over next year and the sequel will probably be on both. This is just a trend in the market and we have all learned you cant expect a series to stay exclusive if it's third party.
Square will probably start developing for all systems too but it will be a slow development. You can bet your ass MGS5 will be multiplatform as well.
This is coming from a proud Sony owner. I am just realistic. It is getting to the point where the only thing you can take to the bank are the first party games. Which I preffer Sonys to MS by a HUGE margin. I like action and RPGs not shooters and shooters. FPS is cool and I will always hold them dear but Resistance is a good substitute for Halo when you get God of War with it. At least that is my personal opinion.
Many of those games are now going to be thrown into the "multi platform" category now. 360 was the only system out when the first versions of many of those games came out. Gears for instance will probably port over next year and the sequel will probably be on both. This is just a trend in the market and we have all learned you cant expect a series to stay exclusive if it's third party.
Square will probably start developing for all systems too but it will be a slow development. You can bet your ass MGS5 will be multiplatform as well.
This is coming from a proud Sony owner. I am just realistic. It is getting to the point where the only thing you can take to the bank are the first party games. Which I preffer Sonys to MS by a HUGE margin. I like action and RPGs not shooters and shooters. FPS is cool and I will always hold them dear but Resistance is a good substitute for Halo when you get God of War with it. At least that is my personal opinion.
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Re: c4pt MARSHbird (Unregistered) - 2007-06-08 |
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» fanboy dreams
Many games will go multiplatform which ones?
If gears of war is the only one you can think of consdering how your badly mistaken on that one you are id like to hear the rest.
Theyve already said theres no chance of it going on any other console as its published by MS and due to the overwhelming support theyve recieved by MS to make it the hit it is today. And weve heard many times how its another trilogy to run over the xboxs life now halos over. If theres ever been even a slight hint of it sounding like it will ever leave the xbox ive not heard it.
Many games will go multiplatform which ones?
If gears of war is the only one you can think of consdering how your badly mistaken on that one you are id like to hear the rest.
Theyve already said theres no chance of it going on any other console as its published by MS and due to the overwhelming support theyve recieved by MS to make it the hit it is today. And weve heard many times how its another trilogy to run over the xboxs life now halos over. If theres ever been even a slight hint of it sounding like it will ever leave the xbox ive not heard it.
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Re: DOTHED (Unregistered) - 2007-06-08 |
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» .
theres no chance of gears going over to another console theyve already said as thanks to the overwhelming support from microsoft there title wouldnt be the hit it is, and they hardly need to increase the consumer base with the petty number of ps3 owners available
this is clearly fanboy dreams and rumours so i dont know how you can state it with such conviction
theres no chance of gears going over to another console theyve already said as thanks to the overwhelming support from microsoft there title wouldnt be the hit it is, and they hardly need to increase the consumer base with the petty number of ps3 owners available
this is clearly fanboy dreams and rumours so i dont know how you can state it with such conviction
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Re: mike (Unregistered) - 2007-06-08 |
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» um not true at all
yea i own both consoels and i can be honest and say gears will never come to sony. but i dont care im not a gears fan. but a few of the games listed are not exclusive such as test drive on ps2 psp pc etc hows that exclusive? half the games you mentioned arent out yet..... so yea let me make a list of sony games since you did the same
Resistance
Killzone 2
Final Fantasy 13
FF vs 13
Ratchet and Clank
God of WAr 3
Gran Turismo
Lair
Heavenly Sword
Unchartered DRakes Fortune
The agency
Ninja Gaiden Sigma
Cant beleive i forgot to put the best 1 this late MGS4
Socom Online
Socom Retail 2008
yo the list goes on and on......
so before making a list of exclusives do research..
yea i own both consoels and i can be honest and say gears will never come to sony. but i dont care im not a gears fan. but a few of the games listed are not exclusive such as test drive on ps2 psp pc etc hows that exclusive? half the games you mentioned arent out yet..... so yea let me make a list of sony games since you did the same
Resistance
Killzone 2
Final Fantasy 13
FF vs 13
Ratchet and Clank
God of WAr 3
Gran Turismo
Lair
Heavenly Sword
Unchartered DRakes Fortune
The agency
Ninja Gaiden Sigma
Cant beleive i forgot to put the best 1 this late MGS4
Socom Online
Socom Retail 2008
yo the list goes on and on......
so before making a list of exclusives do research..
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by Noin (Unregistered) - 2007-06-08 |
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» ^ sad *****got
You fail you f'cking noob
gears of war - will be on the PC
lost planet - is on the PC
shadowrun - will be on the PC
C&C 3 - is on the PC
mass effect - will be on the PC
halo 3 - will be on the PC (Halo 1 and Halo 2 is)
test drive - is on the PC
so exclusives up your c'ock you noob f'uck
idiot...
You fail you f'cking noob
gears of war - will be on the PC
lost planet - is on the PC
shadowrun - will be on the PC
C&C 3 - is on the PC
mass effect - will be on the PC
halo 3 - will be on the PC (Halo 1 and Halo 2 is)
test drive - is on the PC
so exclusives up your c'ock you noob f'uck
idiot...
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Re: C4PT (Unregistered) - 2007-06-08 |
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» Ha you G*Y little fanboy
take your ***** out of your ps3 and calm down. Theres no need to act like a little *****gy 10 year old.
Now read the title this is console wars, the pc is not a console hence forth all the games stated above will only be available on one console the 360 to buy a pc capale of playing these games would cost far more than a 360 so for a ps3 gamer to get all these games it would be cheaper to buy a 360.
Besides PC owners will have to wait ages for these to become available.
take your ***** out of your ps3 and calm down. Theres no need to act like a little *****gy 10 year old.
Now read the title this is console wars, the pc is not a console hence forth all the games stated above will only be available on one console the 360 to buy a pc capale of playing these games would cost far more than a 360 so for a ps3 gamer to get all these games it would be cheaper to buy a 360.
Besides PC owners will have to wait ages for these to become available.
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Re: Ownerz (Unregistered) - 2007-06-08 |
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» but
Youre forgetting one important thing C4PT. Most PS3 owners have been on your mom. There is no reason to get all butt hurt about it, it just happens.
Youre forgetting one important thing C4PT. Most PS3 owners have been on your mom. There is no reason to get all butt hurt about it, it just happens.
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Re: Hey C4PT (Unregistered) - 2007-06-08 |
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» What you have to do is the following
You have to remove the hard disk of your XboxS.H.I.T60 and start f.u.c.k.ing the ***** out of that piece of crap. Go F.U.C.K yourself. Oh and by the way the XboxS.H.I.T60 sucks balls big time. Have fun paying to play online. Xbots you gotta love em. They complain about the PS3 price but they don't mind paying top dollar for over priced acessories and Xbox.S.H.I.T Live. I hope that crap piece of ***** you call a console breaks down and gives you the 3 red rings of death.
You have to remove the hard disk of your XboxS.H.I.T60 and start f.u.c.k.ing the ***** out of that piece of crap. Go F.U.C.K yourself. Oh and by the way the XboxS.H.I.T60 sucks balls big time. Have fun paying to play online. Xbots you gotta love em. They complain about the PS3 price but they don't mind paying top dollar for over priced acessories and Xbox.S.H.I.T Live. I hope that crap piece of ***** you call a console breaks down and gives you the 3 red rings of death.
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