Posted Oct 24, 2008 at 10:57PM by Jon G. Listed in: PlayStation 3, Xbox 360 Tags: Media Molecule
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Quoth Commissioner Gordon in Batman Begins, "...what about escalation? We start carrying semi-automatics, they buy automatics. We start wearing Kevlar, they buy armor-piercing rounds."

...they trash our LittleBigPlanet Metacritic score, we trash their Gears of War 2 worse!

Perhaps the inevitable response to the suspiciously low 6.3 user rating LittleBigPlanet got on Metacritic was the review bombing Gears of War 2 got at the hands of angry PS3 fanatics.

Taking advantage of Metacritic's inability to react to the situation before their upcoming site redesign, over a thousand vengeful gamers bombarded the yet-to-be released 360 title with deliberately low user ratings. Even as i write this article, Gears of War 2's user rating is now at 2.5 and will likely drop further in the coming days.

So what does this bode for the rest of us? Well, I seriously doubt anyone's going avoid buying either game based on an obviously manufactured user rating (and if they do, they deserve to miss Gears 2 or LBP anyway). All that's happened is that some crazies demonstrated they have the impulse control of a four-year old.

While Metacritic's user reviews are useless to the rest of us for a little while, there's always the Metascore from "real" critics as Marc Doyle, the founder of Metacritic, pointed out in his post on the user comments section of each game's page.



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   by PimpFriedRice - 2008-10-24
 » Take That Stupid M$ Fanboys

Payback is a wuuuttttt! At least you all could've done a better job at burying Little Big Planet, the one game beside Metal Gear Solid 4 that has all you xbots salivating, but yet you will NEVER see it on the junkbox 360. M$ should have realized that their hardware was obsolete before the release date as it could never handle that kind of rendering and calculation.


   Re: teh not so 1337 g@m3r - 2008-10-25
 » I don't get it

I own a PS3 and I don't see the slightest special thing about LBP. It looks like it's made fore 6 year old kids? Did I miss something? What's so special about it?

   Re: FreePlay - 2008-10-25
 » ...

Grow the F*CK up.

   Re: tobyo1 - 2008-10-25
 » @Freeplay

Couldn't have said it better myself.

   Re: Slipstream0 - 2008-10-25
 » Your Right

"Little Big Planet, the one game beside Metal Gear Solid 4 that has all you xbots salivating"

um... yah, nothing else on there we want. Your point?

   Re: Yamagushi - 2008-10-25
 » Lawl

Good ol PS3Fanboys... There not gonna accept PS3 lost badly until after this Gen is over. Even then theyll likely keep on and on about how they "believe" the PS3 won.

Seriously, all you PS3Fanboys need to grow up. Don't get pissed at 360 fans because Sony screwed you. And yes they did screw you(Killzone 2, In-Game XMB, the list of things they haven't/proally never will deliver on goes on and on), just accept that the makers of your system don't give a flyin ***** about you, go wank off to some blu-ray movies, and stfu.

   Re: BULL3TPR00F - 2008-10-25
 » @ Yamagushi

Umm... actually, Sony did give us in-game XMB, Killzone 2 is underway (the beta has already been released).

The list of things that Sony has said they will deliver are being delivered.

Sony cares much more about its customers than Microsoft ever will.

   Re: c74gta4smash - 2008-10-25
 » PimpFriedRice

Gonna get flamed for this but I couldn't agree more.

   Re: Yamagushi - 2008-10-25
 » @Bull3tPr00f

Wow, there almost coming out with em, only like 3 years after announcing the stuff.... Oh yea there on top of things.

As for Sony Delivering more than Microsoft. I just lawled so hard I wet myself....

Where to start...
Giant selection of movies and tv-shows(PSN is uncomparebly small.)
In-Game XMB
Partying Up
Much Exclusive DLC(That the PS3 counterparts wont get. I.E. 3 more DLC for GTA4 than PS3 gets)
Many Exclusive games(Thanks to MS paying em off.)
An uncompareble online experience(Over 11million Members of XBL atm.)
Netflix Partnership(Again due to MS paying ppl off.)

Oh yea, Sony definitely cares more.... lmao..

   Re: Techni - 2008-10-25
 » Um...

Live has just as many gold members as PSN has users. PSN is comparable to Live and superior in many ways

   Re: J2Jack - 2008-10-25
 » and again

Gotta agree with FreePlay.

it's a *****ing MACHINE. not a lifestyle choice.

grow up, *****'s sake

   Re: Mister Common Sense - 2008-10-25
 »  .

wow look at the fantards! Anyway the whole review system is BS. This just proves it
These games both suck I don't want either one


   Re: PR Disaster - 2008-10-25
 » Next Thing You Know

They'll start throwing consoles at each other.

   Re: PimpFriedRice - 2008-10-25
 » It was just for laughs

I'm new to posting on forums. I wanted to find out how easy it is to start a flame war and it worked. I have an Xbox 360 and it's a great system (expecting RROD anytime soon though because I got it the same date as the PSP launched in the US.) Sorry for blowing smoke up eveyone's a$$es. XD

   Re: Navani - 2008-10-25
 » Obsolete hardware?

I don't know.. Having great graphics is nice.. but I still go back to my NES and SNES to play those games. Sure, my television remote may be more technologically advanced than a SNES, but you know what? Having great technology behind a game or system doesn't make it good. It all comes down to the game. I don't own a PS3. I own a Wii and a 360. I love The Godfather on my Wii.. and I love Dead Rising on my 360. If I had a PS3 I would be all over MGS4. It's all about the game!

In case anyone was wondering.. Kirby on NES and Turtles in Time for SNES +D

   Re: kingdomhearts74 - 2008-10-25
 » @Navani

i like games with good graphics but i think its all about the gameplay 8)

   Re: blinxRED - 2008-10-25
 » Metal Gear Solid 4, pffft please.....

MGS4 sucks balls, all mgs games suck balls u guys can keep em, they will never match the greatness of Gears Of War or Gears Of War 2 as for LBP, waste of a game

ps. I own all 3 systems, and 360 rules PS3 is aight and ***** the Wii waste of money

   Re: Navani - 2008-10-26
 » @ kingdomhearts74

You're right. Gameplay and plot. I loved Ocarina of Time, the first game I actually beat. I also liked Megaman 64 and Goldeneye 007. More modernly, I am in deep love with Dead Rising (although this game has beautiful graphics with the ugliest main character in the history of gaming) and World of Warcraft!

   Re: psn_gamestar - 2008-10-26
 » LBP not for ever one

oh wait yes it is... seriously teh try it out youd be very surprise on how wrong your comment is

   Re: .darky89 - 2008-10-27
 » Fanboys -

You're losers who ever you back. But obviously i'm wrong, as i can spell. I need to learn more onethreethreeseven speak before i can even attempt to reach the pure brilliance you fanboys possess. Grow up.
   by Echo307 - 2008-10-24
 » Crazy

I can't believe people are actually doing this. I mean, seriously, this is about as pointless as it gets. Neither game is available to about 99% of the gaming industry(I say 99% because of the LBP copies being sold that aren't supposed to be, and 360 modded console gamers that already have GOW2), and these gamers flock to this site to try and drive the score down. I guess I just don't forsee it working. Both LBP and GOW2 are projected top-shelf titles for their respective systems. Anyone who was planning on buying these games probably isn't going to look at this site and say, "well hold on, I'm not buying it now." Especially with articles like this littering the internet telling the tale of how each score became so low.

So what do we really have here? The most pointless sector of a console war in history. Shame on the 360 fanboys for starting the fire, and shame on the PS3 fanboys for fanning the flames.


   Re: Musev - 2008-10-25
 » lmao

I love fanboys, they make me laugh.

Nothing to get upset aboutthough, like you sort of said what difference does it really make to anything.

Just look at it as entertainment.

   Re: jacobian91 - 2008-10-25
 » lol and a half

Musev
"I love fanboys, they make me laugh."

I agree. Fanboys are great. I really don't understand the point of arguing about it so much. Both the consoles are great.

Jon G.
"All that's happened is that some crazies demonstrated they have the impulse control of a four-year old."

lol, good one Jon.

   Re: StingBlah - 2008-10-25
 » ya fanboys are hilarious...

lolzorsbbq

   Re: Silver-Tiger - 2008-10-25
 » ...

THIS IS MADNESS!!!!
madness??
THIS...IS...... FABOYISM!!!!!!!!!!!
   by kimdrummel - 2008-10-25
 » Heh..

I love this. When something positive happens for the PS3 Camp the 360 fanboys doesn't know what to say cuz they know that they don't have anything useful that they can use to so to speak launch a counter attack.
They simply have inferiority complex. They know deep inside that the PS3 is better but they refuse to admit it.
It's so amusing and irritating at the same time. The best entertainment to date. XD

   by rican199 - 2008-10-25
 » Xbox 3Sh*tty

Xbox will never amount to the cell processor the PS3 has. Most of the games being created for Xbox are at maxxed out capability; while PS3 games are just scratching the surface of the cell processor, just wait until developers start using the full capability of the blu-ray and the PS3 combined.....gaming will never be the same. Crap box will be eating out of PS3's HD processed hand!!!!!!!!


   Re: Jez - 2008-10-25
 » Well done

You write very well for a four year old. ;)

   Re: Binary - 2008-10-25
 » I love you. wanna make out?

I love it when you say xbox 3sh*tty.

   Re: StingBlah - 2008-10-25
 » @Jez

and you do a very good job of pretending you are a mature adult, for a four year old. ;)

   Re: kimdrummel - 2008-10-26
 » hahaha XD

This is exactly what i'm talking about. When 360 fanboys are gonna argue with the PS3 fanboys, they almost never have anything to way about their console. Instead they insult the PS3 fanboy in a pathetic attempt to quiet down facts. XD
So goddamn amusing.

   Re: Jez - 2008-10-26
 » @StingBlah

LOL! You could have at least *tried* to be original when responding.

   Re: Jez - 2008-10-26
 » Oh please kimdrummel

Anyone who calls another console by a childish name, whether it's directed at the 360, PS3 or Wii, is simply acting like a child. Rican199 deserves to be called a child for that post of his, and so I have to question why you appear to support him here.

Hence I see no reason to waste my time addressing the points raised by such a childish individual, but as you seem desperate for an answer, I'll address the points he made.

The Cell processor. It is a processor which is superb for what it was designed for, which is for arithmetic calculations, in particular, floating-point operations. It has (on paper), about twice the arithmetic power of the 360's CPU, which is great for areas such as physics. However, the 360's CPU has about twice the power for general processing (i.e. non-arithmetic operations) compared to the Cell processor. Hence overall, they tend to balance out, where the Cell processor will be better for some games, the 360's CPU (Xenon) will be better for others, and both about the same for the remainder.

Regarding the 360 being maxed out. This is pure nonsense coming from someone who clearly has NO idea about technology. NEITHER the 360 or the PS3 is maxed out, not even close, and NO console is ever maxed out before the end of their typical life span because developers are always learning about the hardware, and therefore ALWAYS find ways to squeeze more out of the same console.

Regarding Blu-ray and DVD. Blu-ray's strengh is it's hugh capacity per disc, however compared to the DVD drive in the 360, it's much slower, hence so many PS3 games require a HDD install to improve load times. So again, there are pros and cons to each.

And there are arguements to put forward regarding the pros and cons of the 360 and PS3's GPUs, RAM, HDD as standard or optional, the controllers, online support, resolution and so on.

So kimdrummel, I am more than happy to discuss the pros and cons of BOTH consoles (with mature gamers) without resorting to childish insults against the hardware and companies and without feeling the need to take sides. Can you do the same?
   by Kei8su - 2008-10-25
 » lol

funny things happen when fanboys are in rage


   Re: Binary - 2008-10-25
 » ...

I staying out of this part. I'm a wii fanboy


So ***** you and ***** you and ***** you all. I going to go create my Mii's


   Re: Navani - 2008-10-26
 » @ Binary

Haha I laughed so hard at that.. Just the way you said the last sentence lmao .. I'm still laughing (I love my Wii.. don't hate me!)
   by sergeidragunov - 2008-10-25
 » lol!

ah fanboys! just sit and play!

ps3 fanboys vs. 360 fanboys

i laugh when they fight.


   Re: failtorespond - 2008-10-25
 » lol

No joke. Youd would think they want to be in a gang or something. lol.
   by jac_the_ripper - 2008-10-25
 » thats fair

because, the xbots degraded the score of our most pride, and we degrade theirs even worse, day by day, until it reaches a score that we, ps3 fanboys, are satisfied with.

   by GTO_VR4 - 2008-10-25
 » ah ha

metacritic = attn whore. nothing more.

   by KingPoubar - 2008-10-25
 » This is retarded.

All over 6.3?
You ps3 fanboys need to grow up.
And realise your "holy grail" is nothing more then unoriginal at best so 6.3 is pretty fair.
@Rican199 "PS3's HD processed hand!!!!!!!!". Yeah meanwhile the PC who has been sitting on high definitions for years is laughing at your stupidity.


   Re: jac_the_ripper - 2008-10-25
 » WTF!!

go ***** urself because xbox fanboys like u, gave this *****ing score 4 LBP, u know what, 2.8 is a pretty fair score too, so why don't YOU *****ing grow up. LBP deserves much better score than how it is right now, its is the game with no flaws, and one more thing, the ps3 users are laughing at YOUR xbox obsession insanity. PC users are NOT laughing at our stupidity, but they are jealous of the ps3 because we have best CPU in the *****ing WORLD!! so before u claim something, PROVIDE SOME *****ING PROOF TO UR CLAIM!! U *****ING XBOT!! u guyz r hopeless because of wut happened in the last gen, u guys don't want to get beaten again. and finally for the finishing blow, the 360 is DYING!! its life span is almost over, so i recommend u to buy a ps3 :)!

   Re: Jez - 2008-10-25
 » Please stop it

KingPoubar's comment was uncalled for and he deserves to be attacked for it, but your reply is even worse because it's way over the top and makes you seem more of a fanboy than he is.

Yes LBP certainly deserves more than 6.3, and Gears 2 deserves more than 2.8, but we know that from the REAL reviews scores (coming soon for GEoW2), i.e. we know that from the scores that count. User scores doesn't matter because user bias and score sabotage makes them totally worthless for judging a game. The ONLY people who take user scores seriously are fanboys!

   Re: KingPoubar - 2008-10-25
 » ROFL

Jac. Shut the f**k up. You don't know s**t.
Since when have I owned an x-box or an x-box 360 for that matter. Lets see.... hmmm.... Never.
So how the f**k can i be a fan boy of a console i do not own nor intend to own?
Also have I ever been on Metacritic? No. Never. So how can "xbox fanboys like me" (oh and its "you" not "u" retard) be rating something on a web site that they have never EVER ventured on too. Kind of difficult don't you think? Judging from your response, you don't think ever. And yes, we and many other of my PC gaming friends laugh at you and your ps3. LBP has no flaws hey? Lets just look back at the last few weeks shall we? Oh yes it appears that there were a few lines in a song that all the anal people turned round and said "we can't have that" thus recalling it for no reason and blah blah blah. Flawless all right.
Right, so you have "the best cpu in the world", according to you. Now lets see here. 3.2 Ghz. Wow, impressive. Strange though considering that 3.2 Ghz and higher is EASILY achievable in a gaming pc. Hows that for proof of a claim that PC's are better?
I am hopeless because of "WHAT" (yeah there is an H and an A in what) last generation? Why what happened? Did I miss something? Did my pc break due to poor workmanship? No it didn't.
The 360 is dying? That is nice to know. Thanks for that slice of information you have no proof over. Yeah two can play that game.
You recommend i purchase an over priced and watered down console. Lets see here, the 360 is available in 3 versions, basic, pro and elite. Now lets compare that to how many different versions of the PS3 there are all over the world. Seven. Seven versions of the same thing right? No. Every time they seem to take away less features. That is real nice that is. And to top it all off, my region has never even seen the chip allowing flawless emulation of the PS1 and PS2 games. And we are expected to pay the most out of all other regions. So no, I shall not be buying a box which is going to sit and collect dust. And I am not referring to the PS3 here, I am referring to its box. In which it will never leave.
Now for Jez. My comment was uncalled for and I deserve to be attacked for it for being a fanboy. A fanboy of what here? All you lot do is throw around this word all the time. I am not a fanboy of any of the consoles on the market. I am a PC and retro gamer. So I "deserve" being attacked for stating that because some x-box 360 fanboys managed to get a rating of LBP down to 6.3 and the ps3 fanboys got GOW2 down to 2.5, of which I find absolutely hilarious and utterly childish at the same time. Right. You make perfect sense there. Unless you are referring to my comment stating that 6.3 is fair. 6.3 is a fair rating. Not every "good" game out there hits 8 or above. Its all about your own personal preference. Mine is that everyone's been running round screaming like this is a new original idea. Creating and playing your own levels. Right. Never been done before. Of course not. That's what I have been doing exactly that on the Half-life 2 engine for the past lets see now 3 years. And that is only a modern example. I am sure someone else will know of a similar experience. Therefore I do not buy into it.

   Re: afiset - 2008-10-25
 » lol at you

@KingPoubar: you 'lol' atthe cell processor '3,2 ghz', aren't you? Oh and WHAT IF its in fact an 8 core, with each indidual cores running at 3,2 ghz? For the CPU thing, PS3 wins all the way VS the PC. Even the 360 one is better than almost 98% of the PCs out at this time.

My comment is nothing close to a fanboy one, only an actual fact. Sure PC does better than a PS3 but you'll pay more and the CPU cannot reach more than 8 core (right now). IBM Blue Gene is the most powerful computer on EARTH and half of its CPU are now Cell-based. Start reading.

   Re: KingPoubar - 2008-10-25
 » I lol at you too afiset

Only 6 of those are even used by games.
Despite this I still witnessed slowdown on GTA:IV when I played it. And the PS3 I played on was less then a week old.
And its impressive 512mb of ram is something i had on computers more then 5 years ago.
It still does not change the fact that every generation of the PS3 has less features. Should they not be adding more?
I still have no reason to even consider buying one. All the decent titles bar MGS4 are multi platform, and I refuse to pay £340 for one game. It is not worth my time or money.

   Re: Binary - 2008-10-25
 » ...

oh you wanna know something?
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My D*-Lightsaber- is bigger then yours

   Re: Jez - 2008-10-26
 » Oh please KingPoubar

You were deliberately fanning the fanboy flames with that post of yours and you know it, so please stop pretending to be 'Mr Innocent' here.

By your own admission, you're not a console gamer, you're a PC gamer (and I've been a gamer myself since Pong in the 70s and a PC gamer since it started, so enough of the "I've seen and done it all before" act please). IMO you are a fanboy, in your case a PC fanboy with a pompous and condecending attitude towards consoles and console games, which is typical amoungst PC fanboys, and is clearly seen in your posts.

Saying 6.3 is a fair score for LBP is absolute nonsense coming from you. It's a VERY high profile PS3 game, a game which has been rated at 9/10 or more in all but one review (that one being 8/10) with many giving it the full 10/10 score, a game on a console you don't own, don't want to own and a game you haven't even played. So you are in no position to judge what is or isn't a fair score for LBP and therefore should keep your uninformed opinions on such matters to yourself instead of DELIBERATELY being provocative.

   Re: jac_the_ripper - 2008-10-26
 » yo kingpoubar

don't u notice something awkward, u say that u don't own niether a 360 nor a xbox, and yet u still defend for them, so wut does that make u, a xbot without any xbox consoles. u say that we are childish, so wut does that make u, omega childish, because we would have never given that score to gears 2, unless u, xbots have started it. u guyz gave LBP a fair score, so we got pissed and gave the lowest score we can to gears 2, from this, who do U think is more childish? we ps3 fanboys or u, xbots. what i meant by the 360 is dying, is that it does not have enough games come the year ( except gears 2 and fable 2) or the next. the 360 can only last 4 years to the max, but the ps3 can last 10-15 years. and no, if u buy a ps3 u wont leave it collecting dust, ps3 has better feature than the 360, and u know what, i am actually typing this on my ps3, which u can't do it on the 360. and the ps3 does have 8 cpus.

   Re: afiset - 2008-10-26
 » KingPoubar

... and I SUPPOSE your 512 MB of XDR was TOTALLY used for games and runned at 3,2 ghz ???? lol you're pathetic and your SERIOUSLY need to read more than headlines. OH and YES 6 are used for games, 2 for the OS, how many core power do you think your OS use for games? In fact, a computer cannot run its OS on a single core and give the rest to application because the ARCHITECTURE doesn't allow it. and I suppose your old computer had a blu-ray drive? Your old computer as a whole achieved 2 TFLOPS of floating point performance? Now got eat your cereals and stop being such a fool.

   Re: jac_the_ripper - 2008-10-26
 » this guy

is a ***** i n g a s s h o l e, yo kingpoubar, why don't u stop arguing about something u alredy lost? so go ***** urself ok. we proved that, in every single way u look at the ps3 comparing the other consoles, it stands out. to conclude, don't make me ***** your family, oh thats right you don't have one.

   Re: Jez - 2008-10-26
 » Guys guys guys :)

I had a go at KingPoubar for good reason (as explained above), however that doesn't mean everything he says is wrong.

As I said above, Cell is superb for what it was designed for, and in terms of on paper floating-point performance, is ahead of PC CPUs. However it's general processing performance is not as good in comparison, which is why Apple rejected Cell for it's own computers and left IBM for Intel instead.

The power of any machine is the sum of it's parts (CPU, GPU, RAM, HDD, Audio etc), and in this respect, the PC is far more powerful than the 360 and PS3, and has been for quite some time. But of course, there's a price to be paid for such power, and hence consoles offer a far greater power to cost ratio compared to PCs, i.e. more power per dollar.

And no, the 360 is not dead or dying (I've heard that for YEARS about PC gaming and it's still going strong). The 360 is doing very well in the market, especially when you consider that before both consoles were launched, almost everyone expected the PS3 to surpass 360 sales within a few years, and yet here we are almost 3 years later and the PS3 is still 5-6 million behind.

Both the 360 and PS3 are superb games consoles, the PC is also a superb platform for gaming, so I'm going to disagree with anyone attacking the other unfairly. :)

(I had much more to say but had to cut this short to meet up with someone. Back later perhaps).

   Re: Unregistered Gamer - 2008-10-27
 » @Jez

Jez, you said "So you are in no position to judge what is or isn't a fair score for LBP and therefore should keep your uninformed opinions on such matters to yourself instead of DELIBERATELY being provocative."

Very well said. Great posts. :)
   by Alistar - 2008-10-25
 » Well...

There is no point to this. Anyone with any intelligence would know reviews, especially website reviews, make no difference at all. If you enjoy the game, then does it make a difference what score it gets? Opinions vs opinions, a stupid and rather pointless argument.

Now, those that vote for a game, without even playing it, are just plainly stupid. This goes to both PS3 and 360 owners. Instead of wasting your life with all this pointless ****, move on and ****ing enjoy what you have. If you enjoy something there is absolutely no need to even give a damn what others think. Anyone that voted, without any valid point or hasn't even played the game, really needs to take a look at their complete foolishness and fanboyish behavior. No one should care.

The fact that you give a damn so much, that you actually voted, shows you really do care what they think.

   by ackeejag - 2008-10-25
 » hurr durr so randum

why is this news?
i swear QJ is made up of 360 fanboys.
can i get some real news next time?

   by FOURTHxSURVIVOR - 2008-10-25
 » This is genuinly funny

Considering that it has no baring at all on one's enjoyment of the game no one should be mad about this. It's freakin' hilarious, a 2.8, those fanboy's must of had a meeting to get it that low, I mean 360 fanboys only got a collective 6.3 - well I looks like we know who is more committed to their hate of another console. 360 fanboy's better not complain (but they will, as fanboys are hypocrites as we all know) this is just delicious irony.


   Re: Apeaggedon - 2008-10-25
 » dude lol

i super agree with ya,itsa hecka funny man..its like ther wer a pretty big group of xbot fanny's and lowerd the LBP score.. and wen the ps3 fanny's found out.. then the WHOLE GODD@MN WORLD WIDE community came together,but like you also mentioned above bro. just goes to show you who/s console side shows the most dedicated hate for the other console and the most dedicated love for he most consol as well.


oh and some one above mentioned that the netflix on xbox live said that it was better then the psn video store ?? HAHAHA (((((enuf said)))))).


p.s watch the Ending of Snakes on a Plane,wen samuel l jackson says "gotta praise the playstation" :)

   Re: sony_player - 2008-10-25
 » ha

not to mention, he also said 360 had xmb! ignorant much?

   Re: Musev - 2008-11-02
 » .....

"and wen the ps3 fanny's found out.. then the WHOLE GODD@MN WORLD WIDE community came together"


No they never... its just ps3 sales were are actual sales and not the company counting all the broken consoles to make it look like their consoles ahead.

I mean personly I know more people with ps3's than 360's and the people who have 360's have gone through multiple consoles. :P
   by Eviscerator - 2008-10-25
 » Wow...

This is an incredible display of immaturity and stupidity on both sides of the fanboy coin. Such things almost make me ashamed to be a gamer sometimes....


   Re: Jez - 2008-10-25
 » Yep

I couldn't agree more. :)

   Re: Binary - 2008-10-25
 » yup.

f-u-c-king embarrassing if you ask me.


They all acting like 4 year olds

   Re: Nevers - 2008-10-27
 » Please

don't insult 4 yr olds so...... .. . . . lol

   by Jez - 2008-10-25
 » This is as sad as it is funny

I have never EVER been interested in the user score for any game on any site because it is always distorted by fanboys, from those giving it 10/10 to boost the score to those giving it 0/10 to reduce the average score. It a meaningless result, always has been always will be.

However the fact that some gamers take it so seriously that they collectively 'attack' the score of games in this way is just funny imo, but at the same time, I do think those involved really need to get a life. :)

   by platon - 2008-10-25
 » well, tons of fankids on both sides...

I'm 23 and I don't care about the critics unless it's generalized and unfair, like the assassin's creed critics that were really high when the game was so so (since you had around 5 different quest to do again and again at different places, the only fun was for the big kills). For this I don't care, in general, the reviews are fair. If metacritics dislike LBP and GoW2 I don't care. Anyway, I think gears of war 2 will score at least 8.5 on gamespot, so it's not important. Even if I disliked gears of war 1 (one main gun to use..., good cover system, overuse of the cover system...) I didn't rate it THAT bad, around 7 I think, since in multiplayer it's fun. (compared to call of duty 4 it's nothing for me)

anyway, let the kids do wathever they want, who cares anyway...

   by Mentality - 2008-10-25
 » WOW

The whole fanboy thing has gotten right out of hand, I wonder what it will take to actually calm this war down lol. Utter madness. They're consoles guys, inanimet objects, sure each has better advantages to the other, but seriously quit dissing peoples choice of purchase just because you think you got a better deal, each persons opinion is there own, I just wish most people would keep they're to themselves, and if they do choose to share it at least keep it constructive instead of an outblaze of swearing and useless rambling.

   by triac - 2008-10-25
 » .

Why did the word "kindergarten" came to my mind right now?


   Re: Binary - 2008-10-25
 » ...

Welcome to QJ's Kindergarten playground.

   Re: StingBlah - 2008-10-25
 » ...

yay!
   by Binary - 2008-10-25
 » ...

its all about value of money.


I'm happy with the hardware that 360 has for now. I don't give a flying ***** if I got RROD. 1-3 weeks on repair so what? If you cant wait that long, you need to get out more or spend time on that g/f of yours that wanted to be f-u-cked right now.


   Re: failtorespond - 2008-10-25
 » ..

I love my 360 but I got to admit, the hardware does + fail. And for it costing what it does, it is not very reliable. Imagine if you bought a laptop with such *****ty hardware.
I got RROD 6 times since I got my first one. My most recent problem happened 4 hours after unboxing. lol.
   by Miclowgunman - 2008-10-25
 » THiss Issss WARRRRRRRRR!!!!!

I got the Starburst jellybeans! Who's poppin the pop corn?! This is better then a Scifi original picture! I think sony and microsoft should get together and make a MMO that is XBox owners vs. Playstation owners. They would both make BANK! They would try to add the Wii, but nintendo would probably turn them down.


   Re: kingdomhearts74 - 2008-10-25
 » LOL

Now that i would like to c

   Re: Binary - 2008-10-25
 » Scifi

This is WAYYY better then stupid Scifi channel now days.


I like it when it did not have ani-monday or scare tatics or ghost hunters. wtf gay *****t

   Re: Miclowgunman - 2008-10-26
 » @Binary

Ahh Scifi in the old days. With Forever Knight, Quantum Leap, and the first few seasons of Sliders...good times. Oh, and Seaquest.
   by NarooN - 2008-10-25
 » ugh, fanboys.

I have a PS3. I love it. Does that make me a fanboy? No.

See, I don't care what system you have, what company you represent, etc. You're an idiot, you fail at life, and you're wasting everyone's time if you're a fanboy/fangirl. It used to be tolerable back when no one took it seriously.

But now it's just ridiculous, and I don't see why everyone is making a big deal about this. This isn't even worthy of being posted on qj.net, nor was the other story of LittleBigPlanet getting a 6.3 or whatever on the user score.

User scores don't matter, and neither do fanboy. You have a 360, a PS3, a PC, a Wii, a DS, an N64, a Dreamcast, a genesis, a *****ing pong kit, I don't care and neither do we.

No one should even acknowledge fanboyism anymore. It's old, and annoying. Let is *****ing rest already, sheesh.

Please stop making yourselves seem even dumber by saying "LOL yeah, PS3 fanboys r dumb as hell. thats why Sony doesnt care about u and u dun have in-game XMB or KZ2 yet lolol"

Play your system(s) and stfu please, kthxbai.


   Re: Binary - 2008-10-25
 » right on man right on

Cheers!
   by jrsmaster411 - 2008-10-25
 » Xbot Much

I find it funny that littlebigplanet getting a 6.3 was posted under the title LittleBigPlanet gets 6.3/10 on Metacritic like if it was a legit score, but this gets title ps3 fanboys strike back

   by Binary - 2008-10-25
 » Jusus freaking christ. people still fight

Cant we all just get along?

   by Sinborn - 2008-10-25
 » Meanwhile.

Wii fit is stealthing into more soccer-mom houses as this riotous comment stream, comprised of 99% crap, continues.



   by HIDEO KOJIMA - 2008-10-25
 » !

This is stupid, PS3 fanboys were going to rate GoW2 low no matter what. This just shows how butt hurt the so called "PS3 Empire" can get. So while all the PS3 fanboys are rejoicing over this, they fail to release how pathetic their lives for doing this.

As for the dude who said the MGS series sucks compared to GoW series.... no. Those are 2 different style/types of games. Both series are favorites of mine, so they are both great. And yes, LBP is a waste, that game was designed for little kids... so yeah, it's just perfect for the PS3 Empire.

   by Vipre77 - 2008-10-26
 » Everyone involved on both sides are douchebags

Yes. All of you that were involved (and maybe even some that weren't) are a bunch of tools.

   by Skullsandstars - 2008-10-26
 » Waste of time?

First of all I'm not a fanboy of either console and I own both so with that out of the way I actually find this very amusing.

I asume the people that actually first of all cared enough to downrate a game that has already had enough preorders to outsell littlebigplanet do not own an xbox360 since if they did and are over 18 chances are they would buy the game themselves.

I am going to get both littlebigplanet and gears of war 2 as I like the creativity of littlebigplanet and I enjoyed Gears of War alot.

The whole argument about which console is best stems from people either not being able to get both or feeling some kind of loyalty to a company that only has a single goal.... to make money whilst taking control of a part of a marketplace.

Both Sony and Microsoft honestly couldnt care less about it's consumers so long as they are spending money on thier products so do not get this dumb idea that sony love you or microsoft respect you. You can argue Microsoft care because they have given more downloadable content or "better games" but they only have one reason to try and draw you into buying thier products and that is because you have money and they want it. Neither company are a acharity and therefore thier focus is taking your money and giving you whatever will get that cash out of your pocket and into thier company.

With that said Gears of War 2 will sell insanely well because it has so much going for it and even if they only build on gears of war it will still be an incredible game. So what was acheived by giving it a poor rating.... simple, you wasted your time whilst those "xbox fanboys" you hate so much were sat playing xbox live and having a great time. Also those same "xbox fanboys" wasted thier time downrating littlebigplanet as it will also sell well and the time spent downrating it was also wasted time that playstation fans probably spent playing MGS4.

My point is both consoles have some exlusives and both give a good service. In all honesty I probably play my xbox a little more since at this moment in time the only exclusives that the playstation has that I still play is MGS4. Sony in all honesty have missed what made the PS2 such a HUGE sucsess which was it had a stupid amount of games to choose from and alot of very good exclusives. Microsoft however risked a loss of confidence by rushing out a system plagued with red light issues but in doing so got ALOT of games out and earned some awesome exclusives. For this reason alone I think the xbox is "winning" the "console war" since they have more games to offer and at the end of the day I buy a gaming machine to play games, not dvds or bluerays, games!

Before xmas xbox360 will get gears of war 2 and has just got fable 2 and has alot in line to be released next year.

Before xmas PS3 will get littlebigplanet and hasnt had anything with wow factor recently. It also has alot of exclusives coming next year but for myself not alot to choose from. God of War and maybe getaway 3 will be the only exclusives I'm interested in since Gran Turismo is visually awesome but I think lacking in gameplay and I've never been a big fan of final fantasy.

Sony are a great console maker but this time around they have focused too much on making "the better technical machine" and missed out on the point that games and a good price sells consoles, not a fancy blueray player and the promice that thier console can make things look better (especially when its such a small difference that you dont notice it unless you actually spend time looking for it).

   by the by - 2008-10-26
 » arghh!!

even though i don't condone what the ps3 fanboys have done, just remember it was the x*****s that started it!! im a ps3 owner, but give credit where its due, both games look pretty hot!!

maybe there are some folk here that seriously needs to grow out of puberty!!


   Re: HIDEO KOJIMA - 2008-10-26
 » !

How do you even know if it were 360 fanboys in the first place? People are just assuming thats its them. It could be hardcore gamers or gamers who hate kiddy games. Most people don't think like that, cuz they have a one track mind, and thats to blame the opposing fanboys for whatever. It's like telling that old lady that Obama is not an Arab and yet she still thinks he is. IGNORANCE.

LBP is just an update of the 16bit Sonic The Hedgehog games. You go from left to right and avoid danger and do some obstacles, thats all there is to it.

   Re: Musev - 2008-10-26
 » ...

^ dont be an idiot, of course it was the 360 "fanboys"

and as for your lbp comment its not like gow is original or even special.. run, hide shoot run hide shoot... its just a bit pretty thats all.

in anycase niether has anything on sf2 ce so stfu :P

   Re: HIDEO KOJIMA - 2008-10-26
 » @Musev

You just added yourself to one of those people with one track minds. I have a PS3, I beta tested the game and 6.3 is about the correct score I would've given LBP, well maybe a 7 at most.

I never said GoW2 was special or original, now did I? On top of that I never even mentioned GoW2. But since you did.... yeah, the game is pretty much the same as the first one. GoW is a carbon copy of Killswitch, everybody knows it, most don't want to acknowledge it. "run, hide, shoot" can pretty much be said about every FPS game.

SF2 CE? As in Street Fighter 2 Collectors/Championship Edition? No..... SF2 Turbo

   Re: Musev - 2008-10-26
 » ..

In all honesty I personly wouldn't know what lbp is like.. BUT from everybody I've spoken to that played the beta and others I've read comments from on multiple websites 9 out of 10 people loved it, so I cant see that 6.3 being genuine and if your honest Im sure you would have to agree even if you dont like it (btw Im actually not to intrested in it myself)

Streetfighter2 champion edition + alpha 3 or gtfo :P (pfft turbo.. I just think you're one of those argumentative types now!)


   by chmarr - 2008-10-26
 » a lil argument

ok heres a run down on who has what

xbox = full movies, tv shows, music videos, arcade games, exclusive DLC, downloadible demos, community made games.

PSN = movies, game demos, full retail games

(if i missed something out tell me)

now heres what the xbox trully stands out.
the xbox can connect with a PC where the os3 does not.
the xbox allows ppl to stream music from a usb drive or computer into there games and the hardware is compatible with the pc.

but whats this the xbox has one thing that the xbox users get for FREE...........yep...BACKWARD COMPATIBILITY

yes the xbox get regular updates for the old xbox games hell were even getting old xbox games in the arcade section of the market place where as the ps3 does not because sony said "theres no point as users do not play there old games".........uuummm i play pgr2 , forza 1 just to finish em off :D

the xbox is hugly cheaper than the ps3 by at least 100 bucks.

sony said they wont cut the price of the ps3 as "theres no point" seriously an interview on the bbc technoligy program a sony spokesman said theres no point as customers prefer quality as to quanity, erm the xbox360 1st came out it was 300 bucks where as the ps3 came out in the uk it was £599 (roughly 99) now the xbox is £130-£250 depending on what package you get AND you get between 1-5 games FREE with it, where as the ps3 gives you NO GAMES and there starting price is £250.

the whole point of the xbox over taking sony on there home ground is because of a lil thing known as a "keeping the customers happy", currently the xbox is selling 3:1 ratio in europe and this goes higher in china, japan etc where it goes 5:1 and the use its 3:1, add em up the xbox is selling 11:3 thats a big ass sale because the xbox compnants are getting cheaper to make meaning microsoft are passing on the savings.

sony on the other hand dont, there compnants are being made cheaper but because of the blu-ray starting to go sour due to sony making demands on ppl that want to manufacture its slowly dying a slow painfull death.

i work for a company that asked sony if we could make blu-ray drives for the pc and well, sony wanted a £20 million insurance policyalong with a legal disclosure that prevents us from making our own style of blu-ray drive, sony is making companys sign contrects where they get nearly 50% of the money created from the blu-ray sales, sony has got so many patents on the blu rays is impossible to make it for ourself.

microsoft, all they want is a deal to say that if you make it they get first dibs on using it...pure n simple.

microsoft unlike sony goto companys offer money for exclusive content and / or exclusive games.

the xbox was supposed to have gotten exclusive DLC for burnout paradice but about 3 months into the deal the content never happend because sony chucked a load of cash at crittrion and now MS is demanding the money back, MS is also looking in at the release of trophies which is the exact same as the achievments system because MS are seeing if it breaks compyright infringment.

when sony announced the "home" thingy MS programed its own version, tested it and is now releasing it in 4 weeks, where as sony is still working on theres.

NOW onto membership, sure the PSN network is free but not for long, the bbc technoligy program the sony exec said the PSN will come a PAY TO PLAY system and from the prices that was quoted (- A MONTH) its a rip off.

tell me what would you rather pay a year or between -0 a year.

plus how many exclusive items can you get with the ps3.....not frigging much, the xbox260 has tons of free stuff hell MS even give free arcade games away when theres a serious problem with the servers as a type of compensation.

also the system updates for the xbox dont get released untill there confirmed to be working perfectly, unlike the ps3 updates that have been released that one update bricked 1/4 of a million ps3's, reason being sony only test em on "SELECTED" systems.

you see that this is one sided and that i support the xbox360 bu


   Re: roddollente - 2008-10-26
 » fanboy much?

PSN+ full movies, tv shows, music videos, arcade games, exclusive DLC, downloadable demos, retail games, theatrical and game trailers. (Yes, you missed out ALOT).

the xbox costs 100 bucks cheaper. yeah. but to get wi-fi (which i want), the wireless adapter is $100. plus xbox live which is $60 a year. in short, it's $60 more expensive than what you get with the ps3 for free.

the xbox can indeed connect to a pc, but, you can install an OS to the ps3, and it is called Linux. so, instead of connecting to your Windows Media all the time, you can just boot up thr ps3 to Linux and then do some OpenOffice or whatnots.

MOST people don't want to play ps2 games on the ps3. they rather play MGS4 than MGS3, right? i don't know about you. lol.

yep, there's no point since it's the cheapest the ps3 can get with all the features.

"making the customers happy"? then why are xbox 360 customers starting a lawsuit against microsoft? why, you ask? maybe because microsoft KNEW that their 360 is faulty and yet they still launched it to get a year headstart before the Wii and ps3. sadly, THE Wii STILL WON.

oh really? then what about final fantasy 13 gonig to 360? DOESN'T THAT INVOLVE SOME SERIOUS MONEY?

i don't care about the PSN fee. why? maybe because the ONLINE is awesome? people say there aren't alot of people online, etc. how many do you need to say that the ps3 has online users? 40 million? it's not lke you'll play every single user out there. so what if the ps3 only has like 1 million users online against xbox's 20 million? as long as there are enough people online, then its good. it's not like there's only 2 people online, right?

oh ok, but the point is, THE PS3 SERVERS DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEMS. so why would they give free stuff when there's nothing to compensate to?

fanboy much?

i like the 360, but you have to keep in mind how microsoft got into power. if you think sony is so damned about their own money, then you're wrong. do you really think bill gates is a lame, weak businessman? AHAHA.




   Re: Musev - 2008-10-26
 » ..

That is some of the biggest fanboy dribble and miss-information I've read..





   Re: Musev - 2008-10-26
 » ..

My comment was at chmarr btw

   Re: acesas - 2008-10-26
 » mm well what about buying the cords for the ps3 to play hd content and

mm well what about buying the cords for the ps3 to play hd content and buying the blue tooth headset to talk online they are not free ..and hell you get games with the 360 that you do not get when you buy a ps3 .
i have had my 3060 since the start and love it i got a ps3 2 weeks ago to get on with some friends to play so ps3 games .. for the cost and what you get in and out of the box for fee is just .. just not worth it the only game i have got into so far has bin uncharted that game rocks for me . mgs4 is that a game or a movie ? i guess i am just not a fan . i think the gaming experience on the 360 even paying for it is heads over the competition for a gamer like me . i think ms is taking the best things from other systems and doing it better and cheaper . i love my 360 for the all around experience it gives me the wii for the fun factor it gives me when friends are over ..and the ps3 for its blueray player and uncharted . cost to get up and play out of the box with a few other things to by if you want them ..360{comes with 3 games for 299) with wifi ($399.) wii with game and wiimote ( $387) ps3($ 503 ) game hd cords and bluetooth head set . even with having to pay for live for say 4 years that would be 240 bucks+ the 399 +639 i think it is a great deal for 4 years 3 games and all the online stuff you want .. and hell there is more people playing it then the ps3 or the wii . hell i dont know why i wrote this

   Re: roddollente - 2008-10-26
 » the cord! yes, the cord!

is worth 12 bucks. only idiots buy that monster cable worth $200. they are both the same. mgs4 is a game and a movie. have you tried the resistance 2 beta? or littlebigplanet?

i can turn my ps3 on for a week and it won't break down. i wonder if you can do that to the 360. lol.

if i'm a bout to invest in a game system, i'd rather go to the one where i can play anytime and for hours. i played my SIXTH 360 for 4 hours and my cousin played it for another 4 hours after me and it broke. what a bummer.

   Re: acesas - 2008-10-26
 » mmm

i am talking about product put out by the company that made the system .70 bucks for the cords and 50 bucks for the head set for the ps3 .. the wifi adapter for the 360 is 79 buck ..as for you having 6 360 go on you i am sorry to hear thet did you have to pay to get them fixed i had mine go after 3 years and got a new one withing 5 days and still have that one and did not pay a cent to get it fixed .and we use it everyday for like 2-3 horus a day. for games music and videos (tv) .i was on the beta for lbp ..all i can say it is not my type of game not really fun for me but that is my opinion . mgs4 i have it and am playing (?) it as i write this but i find it ok .

   Re: chmarr - 2008-10-26
 » lil more

@ roddollente

like i said if i missed some out tell me and thanks for telling me :)

the wifi adapter costing $100......ouch i've seen em at $50 in a LOT of american stores (tarfet, walmart)

funny the xbox subscription is $39.99
and i would start to worry bout the facts of sony changing the direction of the ps3

   Re: roddollente - 2008-10-26
 » oh ok



did you say the 360 wireless adapter at target costs $50? then what is this at the Target website?

http://www.target.com/Wireless-Network-Adaptor-Xbox-360/dp/B000B6MLV4/sr+1-3/qid+1225070519/ref+sr_1_3/182-8605987-8672403?ie+UTF8+index+target+rh+k%3Axbox%20360%20adapter+page+1


and did you just say that xbox live subscription costs $39? then what is this at the Xbox Live website?

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/live/memberships/12month-premiumgold.htm


fanboys will really say anything to make their system look good. please, don't embarass yourself.
   by Skullsandstars - 2008-10-26
 » @ HIDEO KOJIMA

Gears isn't an FPS ;) It's a third person shooter ;)


   Re: HIDEO KOJIMA - 2008-10-26
 » !

When I said GoW2 and FPS, those weren't based on the same topic. When I said GoW, it was directed towards the subject of which one is better. When I said FPS, that was directed at the topic "run, shoot, hide".

   Re: roddollente - 2008-10-26
 » LBP is an updates Sonic, Hideo?

so does that mean GeoW is an updated Syphon Filter?

lol. and honestly, if you think LBP is only a 7, then you're in the minority. that means it didn't deserve a 6.3 from users (or xbox fanboys). there hasn't been a negative review of LBP on forums or gaming sites. so to say that the 6.3 is just a fair score, you are wrong. the xbox fanboys obviously rated the game low. that's no question. how can alot of ps3 users rate a game that hasn't even been released? if those were beta testers, well, guess what, MOST people liked the beta. okay, so let's exclude you and your friend, maybe. but just because you didn't like the game doesn't mean the majortiy of people also don't.
   by Apeaggedon - 2008-10-26
 » you dudes ALL

suck HUGE @ZZ THROBING d**k... no one gets it do they??


nooooooo,of course not.. its like the music industry.. wut would it be like and happen if EVERYONE just listened toone style of music... like country? and there was no choice and no such thing as Rap,Metal,Techno blah blah blah... JUST plain ol country.. EFING LAME!! Stale , nothing would be interesting and their would be no colors (figure of speech) or veriety... the world would be BORING AS F**K man.


its exactly like the gaming industry and its holders (ex-sony-m$-Nin ect ect..)
if everyone just stuck to ONE efing console and there was no choice or no other console made just ONE.. that would be BORING as hell dude.. it would make the gaming industry NON interesting and DEFINENTLY wouldnt be as much fun.... i mean look... you get to pick a side or stay neutral to consoles,have fun deciding to be a fanboy or not,forum battles, ect ect blah blah you get wut i mean... it just HAS To happen that way.. and IMO before the gaimng industry wen to one specific console,the g-industry would parish for good.... and i will FU**ING GARANTEE (AND MARK MY EFING WORDS TOO) THAT IF THAT HAPPEND TO ONLY STAYING WITH ONE CONSOLE.... Gamers would miss having so much fun bashing other gamers and their choice of games/console and the non gamers would too as well... the internet would DIE or just become strait up BORING as f** as i said before.



so in short,i think fanboys,dudes flaming on other dudes (eww!) and all the other crazy $h!t that goes on in the gaming world is AWSOMELY B@D@SS and if anything,brings us all closer to one another and adds the perfect amount a flavor to the mix. :)


so F**k off you duech bags that think the gaming world should change into Pleasantville.


now... as far as the article goes.. i think that the 6.3 for LBP that was giving was still pretty b@d@ss considering metacritics lack of knowledge in video games.. and that GeoW rating is super wrong ina way,yet amusing in more ways then one.


i however did like the first GeoW and will still probably like this one as well,but i lost interest to fast,and a PERFECT game IMO is a game that will keep your interest for along freaking time and coming back for more in the long run... and thats y i think that GeoW will do HUGE for a few months and then slowly but surely start to fall like the first one as LBP will only continue to grow for the fact of imaginatary creativity and DLC.

and all im doing is comparing both the games regardless the ganre they are in or release date blah blah blah.. so dont give me that b-$h!t about how you cant compare. I'LL compare wut i want to F**king compare and you cant stop me so no point in saying it is there? NO!


oh and ROCK OUT FANBOYS.. WOOOOHOOOO!!!



   Re: Binary - 2008-10-26
 » ...

He really needs to get laid bad.

   Re: c74gta4smash - 2008-10-26
 » hmmmm

TL;DR


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