Posted Apr 17, 2007 at 02:17AM by Glen D.
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The problem is we are programming these people as a society. You cannot tell me - common sense tells you - that if these people are playing video games where they're on a mass killing spree in a video game, it’s glamorized on the big screen, it’s become part of the fiber of our society. You take that and mix it with a psychopath, a sociopath, or someone suffering from mental illness, add in a dose of rage, the suggestability is just too high. And we’re going to have to start dealing with that. We’re going to have to start addressing those issues and recognizing that the mass murderers of tomorrow are the children of today that are being programmed with this massive violence overdose. |
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by Karloman (Unregistered) - 2007-04-17 |
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» Hi my name is...
My name is Karloman. I'm 18 years old. I've been playing video games since I was 6. I've played through all the GTA's, I've played through Manhunt, I've played through almost every single violent game on the planet, yet I have never taken anyone's live nor have I had the thought of doing so.
My name is Karloman. I'm 18 years old. I've been playing video games since I was 6. I've played through all the GTA's, I've played through Manhunt, I've played through almost every single violent game on the planet, yet I have never taken anyone's live nor have I had the thought of doing so.
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Re: auditri - 2007-04-17 |
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» Same..
I'm 30 and have been playing games for over 20 years, and I haven't killed anyone.
It bugs me that people like jack thombum and dr phail blame video games, when they really need to take a look at society as a whole.
I see much worse depictions of REAL life violence on the Nightly news (and today especially) and in shows like Cops.
Don't blame the game.
I'm 30 and have been playing games for over 20 years, and I haven't killed anyone.
It bugs me that people like jack thombum and dr phail blame video games, when they really need to take a look at society as a whole.
I see much worse depictions of REAL life violence on the Nightly news (and today especially) and in shows like Cops.
Don't blame the game.
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Re: Jerico G. (QJ. NET Staff) - 2007-04-17 |
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» Guys
It's great to see intelligent comments peppering this article. Still, I'm making a call for everyone to please tone down the profanities and obscenities in your posts. This is a very sensitive matter and could catch the spotlight from other industries, so we're gonna be extra strict in moderating the comments here. Besides, populating this section with uneducated/immature comments would only solidify the misconceptions being unjustly bestowed upon us gamers right? Thanks. :)
It's great to see intelligent comments peppering this article. Still, I'm making a call for everyone to please tone down the profanities and obscenities in your posts. This is a very sensitive matter and could catch the spotlight from other industries, so we're gonna be extra strict in moderating the comments here. Besides, populating this section with uneducated/immature comments would only solidify the misconceptions being unjustly bestowed upon us gamers right? Thanks. :)
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Re: Jego (Unregistered) - 2007-04-17 |
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» I agree with you
Violent video games do not make violent people violent people make violent people and so do the *****ing psycopathic freaks out there that should be playing them because this is what happens. They need to have you not have a mental illness to beable to play games like GTA or anything like that. Btw im 16 and have been playing games since i was about 4
Violent video games do not make violent people violent people make violent people and so do the *****ing psycopathic freaks out there that should be playing them because this is what happens. They need to have you not have a mental illness to beable to play games like GTA or anything like that. Btw im 16 and have been playing games since i was about 4
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Re: PS3Rider (Unregistered) - 2007-04-17 |
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» Not Fair
It isn't fair that we have people like Jack Thompson and now Dr.Phil (Who actually isn't a Doctor!) trying to move in on our games and try to take them away from us. It isn't our fault at all, its Americans! Americans all think its fine to bare arms, when its not! Here in the UK we dont have the right to bear arms and we never ever have mass shootings, or even minor to think about it. Americans should realise that the public should not be allowed to bear arms unless you are part of a shooting club and have a lisence.
P.S. We dont have to take anything off Dr.Phil he got owned by the creator of bum fights!
It isn't fair that we have people like Jack Thompson and now Dr.Phil (Who actually isn't a Doctor!) trying to move in on our games and try to take them away from us. It isn't our fault at all, its Americans! Americans all think its fine to bare arms, when its not! Here in the UK we dont have the right to bear arms and we never ever have mass shootings, or even minor to think about it. Americans should realise that the public should not be allowed to bear arms unless you are part of a shooting club and have a lisence.
P.S. We dont have to take anything off Dr.Phil he got owned by the creator of bum fights!
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Re: CHUCKINGROCKSATSPACESHIPS - 2007-04-17 |
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» PS3Rider I See What You Are Saying But...
... what would you do if another country invades yours and they have a huge army? Would you just sit back and die or fight? If you think guns should be banned, why not ban household chemicals? How about banning rocks or sticks. Those can kill too.
... what would you do if another country invades yours and they have a huge army? Would you just sit back and die or fight? If you think guns should be banned, why not ban household chemicals? How about banning rocks or sticks. Those can kill too.
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Re: ahah (Unregistered) - 2007-04-17 |
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» ahahah
I AGREE!
I AGREE!!!!!!!!!!
Half of these fanboys that beat off to Halo and Gears of War don't know the difference between real life and video games. Just look at them!!!! They dress up in Halo outfits and really gay stuff like that. It's any minute before one of these TOOLS goes and shoots up something. Stop them now! Make video games for only 25 and up so that they won't be able to play them, but I will! bwaaahaahhaahahahahhahahaahha! Sorry *****s, I have to get back to work. (since I have a job, a girlfriend, and a hot car). (Unlike gaming nerds which only have video games!!!)
I AGREE!
I AGREE!!!!!!!!!!
Half of these fanboys that beat off to Halo and Gears of War don't know the difference between real life and video games. Just look at them!!!! They dress up in Halo outfits and really gay stuff like that. It's any minute before one of these TOOLS goes and shoots up something. Stop them now! Make video games for only 25 and up so that they won't be able to play them, but I will! bwaaahaahhaahahahahhahahaahha! Sorry *****s, I have to get back to work. (since I have a job, a girlfriend, and a hot car). (Unlike gaming nerds which only have video games!!!)
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Re: mohaas05 (Unregistered) - 2007-04-17 |
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» crazy attorney and redneck psychiatrist
has a video game ever been proved as the reason behind a murderer. sure people blame their actions on them but thats just mostly to reduce their punishment. if you think video games are violent read this: http://www.gamerevolution.com/features/violence_and_videogames
has a video game ever been proved as the reason behind a murderer. sure people blame their actions on them but thats just mostly to reduce their punishment. if you think video games are violent read this: http://www.gamerevolution.com/features/violence_and_videogames
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Re: ME! (Unregistered) - 2007-04-17 |
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» Glen D.
stop acting like an a$$O(Dr. Phil) none of you can prove or disprove anything the other says, so stop acting as if you know *****.(nor you nor "Dr Phil" know *****)
stop acting like an a$$O(Dr. Phil) none of you can prove or disprove anything the other says, so stop acting as if you know *****.(nor you nor "Dr Phil" know *****)
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Re: Charlie Hustle (Unregistered) - 2007-04-17 |
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» Erm...
"Here in the UK we dont have the right to bear arms and we never ever have mass shootings"
Dunblane and Hungerford ring any bells? Your claim is flat out wrong. However, I believe Dunblane was the last mass shooting in England, some 11 years ago. Hungerford was nine or ten years before that. (Can't remember if it was '86 ot '87).
People saying "I play violent games and I've never killed anyone" are just as guilty of baseless claims as the people they condemn. The issue here is far FAR more complex than that simple rationale.
Phil's comments (and I despise Phil BTW) at least do make a small amount of sense. However, Thompson is just a self-righteous self-promoting blow-hard who is cashing in on the suffering of 33 families to further his own twisted agenda.
"Here in the UK we dont have the right to bear arms and we never ever have mass shootings"
Dunblane and Hungerford ring any bells? Your claim is flat out wrong. However, I believe Dunblane was the last mass shooting in England, some 11 years ago. Hungerford was nine or ten years before that. (Can't remember if it was '86 ot '87).
People saying "I play violent games and I've never killed anyone" are just as guilty of baseless claims as the people they condemn. The issue here is far FAR more complex than that simple rationale.
Phil's comments (and I despise Phil BTW) at least do make a small amount of sense. However, Thompson is just a self-righteous self-promoting blow-hard who is cashing in on the suffering of 33 families to further his own twisted agenda.
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Re: Charlie Hustle (Unregistered) - 2007-04-17 |
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» Forgot to add...
My point about Hungerford is back then it was the 8-bit era. Another example of mass murder that can't be blamed on games. Unless the guy got so pissed off with Monty Mole that he went nuts...
My point about Hungerford is back then it was the 8-bit era. Another example of mass murder that can't be blamed on games. Unless the guy got so pissed off with Monty Mole that he went nuts...
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Re: metalspector (Unregistered) - 2007-04-17 |
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» OK you people don't see the point
Ok, it's obvious that none of you are affected by playing violent videogames but think that 0.001% are (which I think the percentage of mentally disturbed people is higher). Well there are more than 100 million gamers worldwide so even though it's rare this thing happens and this concludes that over 1000 gamers are mentally disturbed and could cause such acts. I for one prefer that games like GTA that the purpose is solely based on killing NPC's (as characters portraying human beings) are stopped being produced and discontent some millions of gamers a bit than losing around a thousand lives to videogames worlwide per year as one's videogame needs do not compare to other people's life and the only way to stop this is to boycott this games. Now I don't mean to stop buying violent games but not buy games that you know that they can affect mentally disturbed people (like explained in before in this paragraph), games who's sole purpose are to cause these violence (like violent games like Battlefield, Half Life, Doom, Halo, Gears of War, ect. are ok since the killing of charcaters portraying human beings is not relevant to the purpose and goal of the game). Also of you have some major discontent with these people you probably are way to tied to your videogames and should go out and be with your friends which I assure you is better; some people here speak like they live to play videogames and play more than 30 min a day :S
Ok, it's obvious that none of you are affected by playing violent videogames but think that 0.001% are (which I think the percentage of mentally disturbed people is higher). Well there are more than 100 million gamers worldwide so even though it's rare this thing happens and this concludes that over 1000 gamers are mentally disturbed and could cause such acts. I for one prefer that games like GTA that the purpose is solely based on killing NPC's (as characters portraying human beings) are stopped being produced and discontent some millions of gamers a bit than losing around a thousand lives to videogames worlwide per year as one's videogame needs do not compare to other people's life and the only way to stop this is to boycott this games. Now I don't mean to stop buying violent games but not buy games that you know that they can affect mentally disturbed people (like explained in before in this paragraph), games who's sole purpose are to cause these violence (like violent games like Battlefield, Half Life, Doom, Halo, Gears of War, ect. are ok since the killing of charcaters portraying human beings is not relevant to the purpose and goal of the game). Also of you have some major discontent with these people you probably are way to tied to your videogames and should go out and be with your friends which I assure you is better; some people here speak like they live to play videogames and play more than 30 min a day :S
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Re: metalspector (Unregistered) - 2007-04-17 |
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» I forgot to add.
For those who say the identity of the killer wasn't revealed you seriously need to look at the newspaper or msn.com. And to those who ask why is he called Doctor Phil if he's not doctor, it means he has a doctorate.
For those who say the identity of the killer wasn't revealed you seriously need to look at the newspaper or msn.com. And to those who ask why is he called Doctor Phil if he's not doctor, it means he has a doctorate.
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Re: MikeyMike01 - 2007-04-17 |
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» Dear PS3Rider,
I would, first and foremost, like to say that America is a diverse country. Saying that all Americans are anything besides Americans is just plain ignorant.
Anywho, tons of people in all different countries own guns, or some type of weapon (Heck, you probably do too). The thing is, it's not the gun's that are to blame.
For that matter, nothing is to blame. These individuals are mentally unstable. They are to blame. You cannot convince me that Hitler started off as a sweet little boy, heard a song, and then snapped.
Its irresponsible, and furthermore rediculous to even suggest that the murderers are the victims. That they're just puppets, being controlled by a video game. Its disgusting.
Peace
~Mikey
I would, first and foremost, like to say that America is a diverse country. Saying that all Americans are anything besides Americans is just plain ignorant.
Anywho, tons of people in all different countries own guns, or some type of weapon (Heck, you probably do too). The thing is, it's not the gun's that are to blame.
For that matter, nothing is to blame. These individuals are mentally unstable. They are to blame. You cannot convince me that Hitler started off as a sweet little boy, heard a song, and then snapped.
Its irresponsible, and furthermore rediculous to even suggest that the murderers are the victims. That they're just puppets, being controlled by a video game. Its disgusting.
Peace
~Mikey
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Re: To Jego (Unregistered) - 2007-04-17 |
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» Crazy people
I'm bipolar, I've had depression for a couple years and it's not going to go away.but you think that just because I have a mental illness I blame any sort of radical thoughts I have on some grand theft auto game? No, I had these thoughts regardless, GTA and other games like it do not cause this stuff it's people not understanding when someone needs help. So not even the mentally ill have an excuse with videogames, it's ju
I'm bipolar, I've had depression for a couple years and it's not going to go away.but you think that just because I have a mental illness I blame any sort of radical thoughts I have on some grand theft auto game? No, I had these thoughts regardless, GTA and other games like it do not cause this stuff it's people not understanding when someone needs help. So not even the mentally ill have an excuse with videogames, it's ju
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Re: ME (Unregistered) - 2007-04-18 |
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» utter crap
Just like both of them to capitalize on a tragedy. Both just show how worthless lawyers and psychologists are (not Psychiatrists, they are REAL Medical Doctors).
Now, we have some information that the shooter was committed for a short time.
Just like both of them to capitalize on a tragedy. Both just show how worthless lawyers and psychologists are (not Psychiatrists, they are REAL Medical Doctors).
Now, we have some information that the shooter was committed for a short time.
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Re: PS3Rider (Unregistered) - 2007-04-18 |
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» to MikeyMike01
As much as I enjoyed reading your comment I find it completly wrong.
The plain fact is that if you have a country that has the right to bear arms, you are going to have a lot more shootings than a country that doesn't gives its citizens the right to bear arms such as where I live (The UK). A small minority of people in the UK (around 2%) do have guns, but this is because they have been licensed and inpected to do so.
PS. Hitler was a sweet boy, who was an artist, and the only reason he had hatred over the jews is because is got his application into art college denied and while living on the streets at the lowest time of his life, became to hate the jews more and more as he thought they were snubbing him with their money.
As much as I enjoyed reading your comment I find it completly wrong.
The plain fact is that if you have a country that has the right to bear arms, you are going to have a lot more shootings than a country that doesn't gives its citizens the right to bear arms such as where I live (The UK). A small minority of people in the UK (around 2%) do have guns, but this is because they have been licensed and inpected to do so.
PS. Hitler was a sweet boy, who was an artist, and the only reason he had hatred over the jews is because is got his application into art college denied and while living on the streets at the lowest time of his life, became to hate the jews more and more as he thought they were snubbing him with their money.
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Re: Brains... (Unregistered) - 2007-04-18 |
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» Reality
These guys have been watching the same stuff as most of the US on TV. They enjoy it just as well, and it is good that Dr. Phil even brings up the fact that its on tv. Here is the problem, people that lacks some type of emotion feeds off of the TV or Video game reality in order to feel accepted. That same "lack of" what ever is what causes people to join cults, chruches, gangs and "you name it". Everyone want to feel important or accepted or just need attension and they go about it in their own manner. Take a closer look at society and not what is on TV, because the two old guyes above that blame games and TV are not killers and I am sure that they watch action killer movie just like you and I. I guess mass punishment (no killer video games or movies) would solve all the problems of the world...
These guys have been watching the same stuff as most of the US on TV. They enjoy it just as well, and it is good that Dr. Phil even brings up the fact that its on tv. Here is the problem, people that lacks some type of emotion feeds off of the TV or Video game reality in order to feel accepted. That same "lack of" what ever is what causes people to join cults, chruches, gangs and "you name it". Everyone want to feel important or accepted or just need attension and they go about it in their own manner. Take a closer look at society and not what is on TV, because the two old guyes above that blame games and TV are not killers and I am sure that they watch action killer movie just like you and I. I guess mass punishment (no killer video games or movies) would solve all the problems of the world...
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Re: td (Unregistered) - 2007-04-18 |
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» ...
i've also played all the gtas from gta 2, i'm 13 and the only thing i think about right now is year 9 sats, not turning the nearest street into a chainsaw massacre...
the only way we can prove this statement is to do tests on a real human, put him/her under constant violent videogaming and see personality changes, but it's immoral to use a human guinea-pig for a science experiment.
i've also played all the gtas from gta 2, i'm 13 and the only thing i think about right now is year 9 sats, not turning the nearest street into a chainsaw massacre...
the only way we can prove this statement is to do tests on a real human, put him/her under constant violent videogaming and see personality changes, but it's immoral to use a human guinea-pig for a science experiment.
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Re: cX (Unregistered) - 2007-04-18 |
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» Wow
I've just finished playing GTA Vice City, what a game! I'm going out now to imitate what happened in the game and get the whole hardcore experience! Later dudes! I would have never have thought that guns kill people if I hadn't played that game!
I've just finished playing GTA Vice City, what a game! I'm going out now to imitate what happened in the game and get the whole hardcore experience! Later dudes! I would have never have thought that guns kill people if I hadn't played that game!
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Re: MikeyMike01 - 2007-04-24 |
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» ....
Dear PS3Rider,
Hmm, thank you for that info on Hitler, I didn't know that. +D
All I'm saying, however is that giving people the ability to own a weapon doesn't automatically lead to death and murders.
People can kill other people with knives, bombs, bats, etc. And besides, people can still get guns over the black market even if its not legal.
~Mikey
Dear PS3Rider,
Hmm, thank you for that info on Hitler, I didn't know that. +D
All I'm saying, however is that giving people the ability to own a weapon doesn't automatically lead to death and murders.
People can kill other people with knives, bombs, bats, etc. And besides, people can still get guns over the black market even if its not legal.
~Mikey
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by booyah (Unregistered) - 2007-04-17 |
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» Dr. Phil, I respectfully disagree.
This person was not a child, but an adult, who decided to do a crime. You cannot even begin to argue that an adult was unable to take responsibility for his or her own actions in this case. Blaming videogames for violence in adults?? this is getting ridiculous.
Videogames or not, there are thousands of adults engaging in violence right now, so shut up.
This person was not a child, but an adult, who decided to do a crime. You cannot even begin to argue that an adult was unable to take responsibility for his or her own actions in this case. Blaming videogames for violence in adults?? this is getting ridiculous.
Videogames or not, there are thousands of adults engaging in violence right now, so shut up.
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Re: Mr. Common Sense (Unregistered) - 2007-04-17 |
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» everyone here disagrees
The pathetic thing is before anything is even known about the killer's motivations, videogames are immediately blamed.
Like Carl Johnson from GTA SA said, "don't blame me, blame society."
Go back to being a dating consultant, Dr. Fraud.
The pathetic thing is before anything is even known about the killer's motivations, videogames are immediately blamed.
Like Carl Johnson from GTA SA said, "don't blame me, blame society."
Go back to being a dating consultant, Dr. Fraud.
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Re: Micheal Jackson (Unregistered) - 2007-04-17 |
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» On the other hand
My name is MJ, Im 55 and I have played through all these games and I have only killed 3 people. I dont think these games make a difference.
My name is MJ, Im 55 and I have played through all these games and I have only killed 3 people. I dont think these games make a difference.
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by ashe5k (Unregistered) - 2007-04-17 |
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» WHAT?
They haven't even released the identity of the guy who was pulling the trigger and they're already using this as a platform against violent video games?
What about all those people who went nuts and opened fire on other people long before video games and movies?
Until there are more facts in the case, running off at the mouth about something they (Dr. Phil and Jack Thompson) don't have all the facts on is totally irresponsible. I find it totally unprofessional.
People need to stop blaming things for their actions and start admitting to the facts that they did indeed do something. Everyone needs to hold something accountable in this day and age, and instead of holding the individuals responsible for the crime, we're blaming media and games.
Why not blame the person who pulled the trigger? They are, in fact, responsible for opening fire, and for killing whoever it is they shot.
This whole thing is getting so out of control and I find it really sad that no one is responsible for anything anymore.
They haven't even released the identity of the guy who was pulling the trigger and they're already using this as a platform against violent video games?
What about all those people who went nuts and opened fire on other people long before video games and movies?
Until there are more facts in the case, running off at the mouth about something they (Dr. Phil and Jack Thompson) don't have all the facts on is totally irresponsible. I find it totally unprofessional.
People need to stop blaming things for their actions and start admitting to the facts that they did indeed do something. Everyone needs to hold something accountable in this day and age, and instead of holding the individuals responsible for the crime, we're blaming media and games.
Why not blame the person who pulled the trigger? They are, in fact, responsible for opening fire, and for killing whoever it is they shot.
This whole thing is getting so out of control and I find it really sad that no one is responsible for anything anymore.
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Re: Jego (Unregistered) - 2007-04-17 |
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» Premeditated
The whole thing was premeditated meaning he had it all planned out a good example was him chaining the doors so no one could get out. He also brought a ton of ammo. So he probably wasnt as crazy as we all think.
The whole thing was premeditated meaning he had it all planned out a good example was him chaining the doors so no one could get out. He also brought a ton of ammo. So he probably wasnt as crazy as we all think.
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Re: evilscarycomputergeek (Unregistered) - 2007-04-17 |
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» stereotyping
Obviously, these people are stereotyping. We only know 3 things about the shooter: he was asian, was a male, and was in his 20's. So what do we conclude: He must be a video game player.
Obviously, these people are stereotyping. We only know 3 things about the shooter: he was asian, was a male, and was in his 20's. So what do we conclude: He must be a video game player.
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by tonks01 (Unregistered) - 2007-04-17 |
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» yeah right!
gaming is a billion dollar world wide industry, iv travelled to central africa and seen kids on gameboys, in many asian countries it's heavily integrated into everyday life, i assume in america gamers are no different to myself! but what is different in america to anywhere else is gun control, now l know loads of people go on about it, but stop blaming gaming! if the access to guns wasnt as easy as it is, this would not have happened, hell couldnt of happened! if we got rid of video games tomorrow this kind of thing would STILL happen, the media would just blame it on say, rap music, the US goverment needs to open there damn eyes
gaming is a billion dollar world wide industry, iv travelled to central africa and seen kids on gameboys, in many asian countries it's heavily integrated into everyday life, i assume in america gamers are no different to myself! but what is different in america to anywhere else is gun control, now l know loads of people go on about it, but stop blaming gaming! if the access to guns wasnt as easy as it is, this would not have happened, hell couldnt of happened! if we got rid of video games tomorrow this kind of thing would STILL happen, the media would just blame it on say, rap music, the US goverment needs to open there damn eyes
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Re: just a guy (Unregistered) - 2007-04-17 |
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» it's not the guns either
Well, let me tell you that if you put stricter gun control laws, all that's going to do is empower criminals even more. Guns do not kill people, people kill people. Believe me, I'm from Colombia, South America, and citizens there are not allowed to own firearms no matter what, yet, it still is one of the most violent countries in the world. When you put gun control laws in place, all you do is take away the right for good, law obiding citizens to defend themselves, and empower the criminals. Do you think that someone who is intent on killing someone cares about gun control laws? They will get the weapon in the black market and carry his/her evil actions without regard for human life, much less "gun control laws."
Well, let me tell you that if you put stricter gun control laws, all that's going to do is empower criminals even more. Guns do not kill people, people kill people. Believe me, I'm from Colombia, South America, and citizens there are not allowed to own firearms no matter what, yet, it still is one of the most violent countries in the world. When you put gun control laws in place, all you do is take away the right for good, law obiding citizens to defend themselves, and empower the criminals. Do you think that someone who is intent on killing someone cares about gun control laws? They will get the weapon in the black market and carry his/her evil actions without regard for human life, much less "gun control laws."
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Re: Keef (Unregistered) - 2007-04-17 |
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i agree with "just a guy".
As i have read here http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page+%5CNation%5Carchive%5C200209%5CNAT20020917a.html
a cupple of good average citizens had guns in their car, as they were not alowed to cary in school. which was under attack by one of these messed up freaks, so they went and got their guns and he gave up once confrounted.
it becomes next to obvious when u think of it this way.....
if everyone is alowed to carry guns in school, would you attack it like these people are doing?
would u hell, becase there is a very high chance they would get killed before they could even get one round off...
i agree with "just a guy".
As i have read here http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page+%5CNation%5Carchive%5C200209%5CNAT20020917a.html
a cupple of good average citizens had guns in their car, as they were not alowed to cary in school. which was under attack by one of these messed up freaks, so they went and got their guns and he gave up once confrounted.
it becomes next to obvious when u think of it this way.....
if everyone is alowed to carry guns in school, would you attack it like these people are doing?
would u hell, becase there is a very high chance they would get killed before they could even get one round off...
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» tonks01 (Unregistered)
Gun control is not the answer. The guy could have made bombs from ordinary household chemicals that would have been way worse than guns.
Gun control is not the answer. The guy could have made bombs from ordinary household chemicals that would have been way worse than guns.
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Re: CHUCKINGROCKSATSPACESHIPS - 2007-04-17 |
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» just a guy (Unregistered)
You are absolutely right. I know people that have even made their own guns.
You are absolutely right. I know people that have even made their own guns.
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Re: evilscarycomputergeek (Unregistered) - 2007-04-17 |
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» actually:
guns don't kill people: drivers with cellphones kill people.
guns don't kill people: drivers with cellphones kill people.
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by zinga (Unregistered) - 2007-04-17 |
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» Hahahahaha, people who can't reason
Lol. Man, he sounds like this "That guy in Africa farted, then the gunman shot dead two people. It's obvious that the farting caused two deaths."
Idiots.
Lol. Man, he sounds like this "That guy in Africa farted, then the gunman shot dead two people. It's obvious that the farting caused two deaths."
Idiots.
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by Doomer (Unregistered) - 2007-04-17 |
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» .....
i am so efing tired of hearing how ***** ing video games are ruining people. They blamed Columbine on Doom, other Shootings on GTA. They dont want to go to prison and be some guys ***** so they plead insanity that the video games made him do it. @_@. Thats enough people! we have heard this excuse many of times, if you were insae, why the hell do you even have games? I have been playing game since i was 3, my very first game was Doom. and i have never shot or killed any one, and to this day i play GTA, and other violent games.
There should be a law saying that blaming Video games for your crime is illegal.
this article has ruined my day and now im pissed
i am so efing tired of hearing how ***** ing video games are ruining people. They blamed Columbine on Doom, other Shootings on GTA. They dont want to go to prison and be some guys ***** so they plead insanity that the video games made him do it. @_@. Thats enough people! we have heard this excuse many of times, if you were insae, why the hell do you even have games? I have been playing game since i was 3, my very first game was Doom. and i have never shot or killed any one, and to this day i play GTA, and other violent games.
There should be a law saying that blaming Video games for your crime is illegal.
this article has ruined my day and now im pissed
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by gamesarentheprob (Unregistered) - 2007-04-17 |
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» Life is a prob
You could just as easyly blame it on a date line nbc program that air only the night before.
Where in the mass killer was a fellow that couldn't get a hopital to even belive he was a danger. (At least as i understand it. only caught the tail end of it)
He ended up killing a bunch of people over not being able to get some kind a special oil for his Motercycle.
Just want to also note that there are so many things that can mess up a person in the world. I suppose the question is why aren't more people going off the deep end. Gamers are an easy target simply because most people would rather blame there actions of something else rather then themselves.
You simply don't often hear someone say, "Oh, i lost my temper when my girlfriend dumped me. So i took it out on her and everyone around me cause i was mad."
They will almost alway blame the victim for there own stupid actions.
The world is a very vilolent place with or with out vid games and vilolent movies.
And as a society we also blame others and anyone but oursleves when something horrible happens. We decry these horrible things but don't want to pay the real cost of getting to the root problems with prevention options.
We only try to solve something after it's too late.
So we are all kinda cheap lazy blame passers
Just cause something bad has happened in your life doesn't mean you have to pass on that bad stuff to others.
Don't pass on the sins and slights you've had happen to you. The sin stops here.
You could just as easyly blame it on a date line nbc program that air only the night before.
Where in the mass killer was a fellow that couldn't get a hopital to even belive he was a danger. (At least as i understand it. only caught the tail end of it)
He ended up killing a bunch of people over not being able to get some kind a special oil for his Motercycle.
Just want to also note that there are so many things that can mess up a person in the world. I suppose the question is why aren't more people going off the deep end. Gamers are an easy target simply because most people would rather blame there actions of something else rather then themselves.
You simply don't often hear someone say, "Oh, i lost my temper when my girlfriend dumped me. So i took it out on her and everyone around me cause i was mad."
They will almost alway blame the victim for there own stupid actions.
The world is a very vilolent place with or with out vid games and vilolent movies.
And as a society we also blame others and anyone but oursleves when something horrible happens. We decry these horrible things but don't want to pay the real cost of getting to the root problems with prevention options.
We only try to solve something after it's too late.
So we are all kinda cheap lazy blame passers
Just cause something bad has happened in your life doesn't mean you have to pass on that bad stuff to others.
Don't pass on the sins and slights you've had happen to you. The sin stops here.
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by Keef (Unregistered) - 2007-04-17 |
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@ Doomer, i was thinking the EXACT same thing..... my day has been ruined, im totaly pissed off by the fact that people cant see the obvious..... these people are nuts from the beginning.
Games did not do anything to these weird *****s
@ Doomer, i was thinking the EXACT same thing..... my day has been ruined, im totaly pissed off by the fact that people cant see the obvious..... these people are nuts from the beginning.
Games did not do anything to these weird *****s
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Re: ***** (Unregistered) - 2007-04-17 |
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» Dr. Phil and Jack Thompson
these two *****s want to kill gaming if they speak of kids killing because of video games than i speak of politicians and celeberties seeking attention by speaking of killing off a billion dollar industry
these two *****s want to kill gaming if they speak of kids killing because of video games than i speak of politicians and celeberties seeking attention by speaking of killing off a billion dollar industry
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by sinX - 2007-04-17 |
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» ok wait a min...
Obviously, I don't think games turn people in to violent monsters but, where in that quote does he say "exposing children to violent games breeds sociopaths"? It reads more like he's saying that a violence saturated media, like ours, that is so intertwined in everyones lives, becomes to much a part of their already sick minds.
You can't turn someone into a sociopath, those people are born with no conscious or have it ripped out by some horrifying traumatic event at an early age. But, the point is, even as dumb as Dr. Phil is he still knows you can't just turn someone into a psycho or sociopath, he's only saying that the violent media that is a part of us all doesn't sit well with mental illness, and in my opinion, he's right. Violent media has barely been with us more than a generation so, it's not totally unfounded that we have no idea what sort of effect it is going to have sociologically.
Obviously, I don't think games turn people in to violent monsters but, where in that quote does he say "exposing children to violent games breeds sociopaths"? It reads more like he's saying that a violence saturated media, like ours, that is so intertwined in everyones lives, becomes to much a part of their already sick minds.
You can't turn someone into a sociopath, those people are born with no conscious or have it ripped out by some horrifying traumatic event at an early age. But, the point is, even as dumb as Dr. Phil is he still knows you can't just turn someone into a psycho or sociopath, he's only saying that the violent media that is a part of us all doesn't sit well with mental illness, and in my opinion, he's right. Violent media has barely been with us more than a generation so, it's not totally unfounded that we have no idea what sort of effect it is going to have sociologically.
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by cultured gent (Unregistered) - 2007-04-17 |
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» The Sound of Music causes Death
Martin Bryant shot 35 people dead with multiple arms in Tasmania, giggling as he did it.
He owned three copies of The Sound of Music.
Perhaps it is time to ban this evil movie, obviously a cause of violence.
Martin Bryant shot 35 people dead with multiple arms in Tasmania, giggling as he did it.
He owned three copies of The Sound of Music.
Perhaps it is time to ban this evil movie, obviously a cause of violence.
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by Glen D. (QJ. NET Staff) - 2007-04-17 |
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» old school
Makes me wonder how dirt-poor bullies who don't even own consoles can be so viokent. Maybe everyone should play violent games so they can vent their anger in games and not beat up other people.
Makes me wonder how dirt-poor bullies who don't even own consoles can be so viokent. Maybe everyone should play violent games so they can vent their anger in games and not beat up other people.
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by Jerico G. (QJ. NET Staff) - 2007-04-17 |
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» Dr Phil sings
sings i get so sick of everyone placing the blame on video games. before video games even existed there were people doing killing other people for no apparent reason.. in addition to that video games isn't the only thing that advocates violence.. there are more violent movies and television shows then there are games..i believe the main problem is with the parents if they see that their child doesn't have a good hold on reality maybe the kid shouldn't play video games especially violent ones.
Edited by Jerico G. (Q.J. NET Staff) , because:
this is a post from reader somal. I removed profanities/obscenities. replaced them with the word "sings"
sings i get so sick of everyone placing the blame on video games. before video games even existed there were people doing killing other people for no apparent reason.. in addition to that video games isn't the only thing that advocates violence.. there are more violent movies and television shows then there are games..i believe the main problem is with the parents if they see that their child doesn't have a good hold on reality maybe the kid shouldn't play video games especially violent ones.
Edited by Jerico G. (Q.J. NET Staff) , because:
this is a post from reader somal. I removed profanities/obscenities. replaced them with the word "sings"
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Re: true (Unregistered) - 2007-04-17 |
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» totaly agree with ya
dont assume that i started with videogames... TV is much worse and movies are even more violent then alot of games..... dont blame the gaming industry.....
i cant stand how the "knowitall" Dr Phil can say something without ANY PROOF... and assume things..... a true psychologist knows not to assume anything... because tyou are avoiding the real true problem/cause of the effect.
Dr Phil needs to learn how and when to stop talking as most of his talk is a bunch of hot air and can be proved false by an average Logic student.
Dr phil can petition to stop videogames... but the world should petition for him be quiet until he has more proof on subjects
dont assume that i started with videogames... TV is much worse and movies are even more violent then alot of games..... dont blame the gaming industry.....
i cant stand how the "knowitall" Dr Phil can say something without ANY PROOF... and assume things..... a true psychologist knows not to assume anything... because tyou are avoiding the real true problem/cause of the effect.
Dr Phil needs to learn how and when to stop talking as most of his talk is a bunch of hot air and can be proved false by an average Logic student.
Dr phil can petition to stop videogames... but the world should petition for him be quiet until he has more proof on subjects
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Re: CHUCKINGROCKSATSPACESHIPS - 2007-04-17 |
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» So You Guys No Longer Will Let People Comment Their True Feelings?
Is this site ran in Russia or is that where we are headed? If there ever was any media backlash to you guys on posts I don't mind being interviewed by them explaining myself. l welcome it.
Is this site ran in Russia or is that where we are headed? If there ever was any media backlash to you guys on posts I don't mind being interviewed by them explaining myself. l welcome it.
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Re: to CHUCKINGROCKSATSPACESHIPS (Unregistered) - 2007-04-17 |
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