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by Echo_Evolution - 2006-04-20 |
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Wooo a dumbass that made a famous game for "PS2" is saying ***** about Nintendo... Not Suprising.
Wooo a dumbass that made a famous game for "PS2" is saying ***** about Nintendo... Not Suprising.
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by Anonymous Coward (Unregistered) - 2006-04-20 |
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» This guy dousent even understand what nintendo is about.
He isent a gamer he dousent understand what hes talking about. He also dousent understand what nintendo is doing is going to save the gaming market. Without the revoultion games would begin to get repetive in time and people would eventully loose intrest and the gaming market would crash and burn. Nintendo with its revoultion is doing the most important thing in gaming history right now.
He isent a gamer he dousent understand what hes talking about. He also dousent understand what nintendo is doing is going to save the gaming market. Without the revoultion games would begin to get repetive in time and people would eventully loose intrest and the gaming market would crash and burn. Nintendo with its revoultion is doing the most important thing in gaming history right now.
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by Anonymous Coward (Unregistered) - 2006-04-20 |
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i know this is the revolution board but its like how the ds is revolutionizing the handheld market, the revolution will do so to the console market
i know this is the revolution board but its like how the ds is revolutionizing the handheld market, the revolution will do so to the console market
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by Anonymous Coward (Unregistered) - 2006-04-20 |
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» nothing to do with the psp
there's a revolution blog you know
there's a revolution blog you know
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by Anonymous Coward (Unregistered) - 2006-04-20 |
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» Er
The revolution idea of a controller is pretty much something we've seen already from some arcade machines and other controls in the market. Its a phreaking remote looking controller for god sakes. And I still don't understand this phonomenon of the DS touch screen pad, its not like i've never seen that technology and gaming on it isn't what's its hype up to me. I got bored with it.
The revolution idea of a controller is pretty much something we've seen already from some arcade machines and other controls in the market. Its a phreaking remote looking controller for god sakes. And I still don't understand this phonomenon of the DS touch screen pad, its not like i've never seen that technology and gaming on it isn't what's its hype up to me. I got bored with it.
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by Anonymous Coward (Unregistered) - 2006-04-20 |
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Finaly someone that has the guts to say that Big N's remote control is not fit for gaming!
Finaly someone that has the guts to say that Big N's remote control is not fit for gaming!
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by Anonymous Coward (Unregistered) - 2006-04-20 |
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» freiken idiots
You are all idots wait till e3 you havent even seen a game played with that controller gosh.
You are all idots wait till e3 you havent even seen a game played with that controller gosh.
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by Anonymous Coward (Unregistered) - 2006-04-20 |
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» blah
"I don't think a controller should have that much influence on the enjoyment of games."
At first I agreed. But what is left? Graphics, Sound and Gameplay/Functionality. Leaving Graphics and Sound aside, Gameplay by definition also includes the actions a player can do - and those are limited mostly by the controller. After some time there were more buttons, there came analogue sticks, all of these enabling types of games and gameplay that were not possible before or extending proven gameplay designs a bit further. The same can be said about this new controller.
"I don't think a controller should have that much influence on the enjoyment of games."
At first I agreed. But what is left? Graphics, Sound and Gameplay/Functionality. Leaving Graphics and Sound aside, Gameplay by definition also includes the actions a player can do - and those are limited mostly by the controller. After some time there were more buttons, there came analogue sticks, all of these enabling types of games and gameplay that were not possible before or extending proven gameplay designs a bit further. The same can be said about this new controller.
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by Anonymous Coward (Unregistered) - 2006-04-20 |
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» Keita Takahashi
Please forgive me....
I was only doing what sony asked me to do.
Please forgive me....
I was only doing what sony asked me to do.
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by Anonymous Coward (Unregistered) - 2006-04-20 |
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» think about it
look at the eyetoy.. it works very well and its fun but most of the time im too lazy to play it and would rather just use a controller. i think the rev controller is going to be nthing more than a gimmick... if nintendo was to revive the market just make fun original games instead of mario party 215... also there should be an option to use a standard wave bird.
look at the eyetoy.. it works very well and its fun but most of the time im too lazy to play it and would rather just use a controller. i think the rev controller is going to be nthing more than a gimmick... if nintendo was to revive the market just make fun original games instead of mario party 215... also there should be an option to use a standard wave bird.
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by Anonymous Coward (Unregistered) - 2006-04-20 |
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» Nintendos fate will be chosen at E3
Well i gess E3 will be the ultimate test for nintendo to see if its all realey is a gimmic i think it isent be no one will know till E3 19 days and it could be the biggest thing in gaming history or just a stuipid ass gimmic X-D.
Well i gess E3 will be the ultimate test for nintendo to see if its all realey is a gimmic i think it isent be no one will know till E3 19 days and it could be the biggest thing in gaming history or just a stuipid ass gimmic X-D.
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by ssj3fox - 2006-04-20 |
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» no 8
That is what I thought... that comment makes no sense. If he wants to down the Rev he should say something that makes sense. He could just forget games and just make his playgrounds...
That is what I thought... that comment makes no sense. If he wants to down the Rev he should say something that makes sense. He could just forget games and just make his playgrounds...
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by darksquirrel - 2006-04-20 |
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» why the rev has problems
The only problem with a controller based marketing stragedy is that the controller isn't incredibly complex or expensive to make...it's basically an add-on peripheral. 50$ sony addon gives the ps3 the exact same capabilites that the revolution has only now with a far more advanced graphical system, thats partly why i feel the revolution is kind of cheap, not nearly as gimmicky as the ds, but i'm sure i'll be in line day one(unlike the ds which i bought almost a year after)
The only problem with a controller based marketing stragedy is that the controller isn't incredibly complex or expensive to make...it's basically an add-on peripheral. 50$ sony addon gives the ps3 the exact same capabilites that the revolution has only now with a far more advanced graphical system, thats partly why i feel the revolution is kind of cheap, not nearly as gimmicky as the ds, but i'm sure i'll be in line day one(unlike the ds which i bought almost a year after)
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by darksquirrel - 2006-04-20 |
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» why the rev has problems
The only problem with a controller based marketing stragedy is that the controller isn't incredibly complex or expensive to make...it's basically an add-on peripheral. 50$ sony addon gives the ps3 the exact same capabilites that the revolution has only now with a far more advanced graphical system, thats partly why i feel the revolution is kind of cheap, not nearly as gimmicky as the ds, but i'm sure i'll be in line day one(unlike the ds which i bought almost a year after)
The only problem with a controller based marketing stragedy is that the controller isn't incredibly complex or expensive to make...it's basically an add-on peripheral. 50$ sony addon gives the ps3 the exact same capabilites that the revolution has only now with a far more advanced graphical system, thats partly why i feel the revolution is kind of cheap, not nearly as gimmicky as the ds, but i'm sure i'll be in line day one(unlike the ds which i bought almost a year after)
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by Anonymous Coward (Unregistered) - 2006-04-20 |
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» look who care about that puss
he says something stupid because he is a *****ing retard the revolution will sell better than the ps3 just like the ds is beating the psp
he says something stupid because he is a *****ing retard the revolution will sell better than the ps3 just like the ds is beating the psp
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by Anonymous Coward (Unregistered) - 2006-04-20 |
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» The controller DOES matter
"I'm not really interested in it. I don't think a controller should have that much influence on the enjoyment of games."
Controllers are one of the main points of games. When I look for a console game, I try to find it for the GC first because its controller is comfy to hold, the layout is great and I could hold it for hours - unlike an Xbox or PS2 controller.
I guess you could expect an answer like that from a "Sony-only" developer and to me I don't care.
"I'm not really interested in it. I don't think a controller should have that much influence on the enjoyment of games."
Controllers are one of the main points of games. When I look for a console game, I try to find it for the GC first because its controller is comfy to hold, the layout is great and I could hold it for hours - unlike an Xbox or PS2 controller.
I guess you could expect an answer like that from a "Sony-only" developer and to me I don't care.
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by DarkLegacy - 2006-04-20 |
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» He is right...
It's very doubtful that the revolution will out sell either the Xbox 360 & PS3. We all saw how poorly the GameCube was doing until it took a big price drop. The only exception to that will be the Japan market, where it should do better than the Xbox 360. They simply don't have the software support & the backing of bigger name titles other than there own like they once did. Especially with Sony & MS buying off so many exclusive titles & Studios. They still do own the handheld market. but PSP sales have been picking up very rapidly. Probally cus of good titles finally showing & the price drop. There approach with the controller is very innovative but they will need some very good games to back it up. Keita hit it right on the nail, a controller will not not sell the system. It will take many great games to do that. They'll need many solid third party titles as well. Something outside of there own exclusive games. The NIGHTS announcement if true is something that is on the right track for the system. They'll need more than that however.
It's very doubtful that the revolution will out sell either the Xbox 360 & PS3. We all saw how poorly the GameCube was doing until it took a big price drop. The only exception to that will be the Japan market, where it should do better than the Xbox 360. They simply don't have the software support & the backing of bigger name titles other than there own like they once did. Especially with Sony & MS buying off so many exclusive titles & Studios. They still do own the handheld market. but PSP sales have been picking up very rapidly. Probally cus of good titles finally showing & the price drop. There approach with the controller is very innovative but they will need some very good games to back it up. Keita hit it right on the nail, a controller will not not sell the system. It will take many great games to do that. They'll need many solid third party titles as well. Something outside of there own exclusive games. The NIGHTS announcement if true is something that is on the right track for the system. They'll need more than that however.
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by Anonymous Coward (Unregistered) - 2006-04-20 |
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» calm down
Katamari Damacy creater is a park builder who doesn't really like video games in general but wanted to give them a try, this isn't a shot at him, its a true story.
Keep this in mind before bashing revo controller at all: it will likely have a "normal" controller shell that it can plug into (IGN already made a mockup) so it can function as a normal controller OR a special controller, that means it can LITERALLY do everything the other consoles can do (controlwise) and much more.
Katamari Damacy creater is a park builder who doesn't really like video games in general but wanted to give them a try, this isn't a shot at him, its a true story.
Keep this in mind before bashing revo controller at all: it will likely have a "normal" controller shell that it can plug into (IGN already made a mockup) so it can function as a normal controller OR a special controller, that means it can LITERALLY do everything the other consoles can do (controlwise) and much more.
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by comedy - 2006-04-20 |
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» yikes
so when someone voices their opinion about the revolution and it doesn't agree with your own he's just some sort of idiot?
i would have expected a more mature response from 'serious' gamers...
this guy may have a point, why can't sony or ms just make a controller peripheral which does the same thing? my cynicism gland is activated when the rev. controller is seen as the saviour of the videogame industry for a couple of reasons:
we have seen things like this before, admittedly the ds is doing very well but that doesn't necessarily mean rev will, light guns etc have done ok, but they haven't exactly sold better than mass market games which a console needs to survive. if EA don't make fifa or other such titles (the kind i personally abhor) for the revolution then it will have a hard time. what's to say sony etc can't copy nintendo?
i know i'm stirring up a pit of vipers by speaking out against the hype created about rev. but lets face it, we have only seen blurry screenshots from one game... this isn't conclusive proof that rev. is going to win the next round of the console war
so when someone voices their opinion about the revolution and it doesn't agree with your own he's just some sort of idiot?
i would have expected a more mature response from 'serious' gamers...
this guy may have a point, why can't sony or ms just make a controller peripheral which does the same thing? my cynicism gland is activated when the rev. controller is seen as the saviour of the videogame industry for a couple of reasons:
we have seen things like this before, admittedly the ds is doing very well but that doesn't necessarily mean rev will, light guns etc have done ok, but they haven't exactly sold better than mass market games which a console needs to survive. if EA don't make fifa or other such titles (the kind i personally abhor) for the revolution then it will have a hard time. what's to say sony etc can't copy nintendo?
i know i'm stirring up a pit of vipers by speaking out against the hype created about rev. but lets face it, we have only seen blurry screenshots from one game... this isn't conclusive proof that rev. is going to win the next round of the console war
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by darksquirrel - 2006-04-20 |
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» agreed
games are always the core of a system and though nintendo speaks of gameplay i've yet to see any game spark my interest. No more than normal at least, i mean i'm as excited as the next guy for super smash bros., zelda, mario and the rest, but there hyping the controller and seem to lose focus a bit on their games..i mean i don't want to play a controller centric game...i want to play a game where the main focus is the game. to be honest i want them to innovant and perfect gameplay not bring us a way to play the same game differently/ To be honest i love the main nintendo franchises, i really can't get enough of them,but i don't want to be playing on the rev and think to myself " i sure would love to see what the nintendo team could've done with the ps3 hardware"
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OH and here's a great question to ask the fanboys alike, if sony had went with the revolution idea for there system and forgoe the next gen graphics and it had been nintendo that built the powerful cell architecture, who would you be backing now? I know you'd be up in arms wondering what zelda would look like on there system, and you wouldn't have to worry about gameplay either, because you know the developers at nintendo are just as good at that. really think about it(same goes for the ds, the second you ask that question it seems to shut people up when they think about how good metroid wouldv'e been like on a powerful system like the psp, especially since it would also be returning to it's console controls[which i personally liked better] Auto targeting + metroid = awesome)
games are always the core of a system and though nintendo speaks of gameplay i've yet to see any game spark my interest. No more than normal at least, i mean i'm as excited as the next guy for super smash bros., zelda, mario and the rest, but there hyping the controller and seem to lose focus a bit on their games..i mean i don't want to play a controller centric game...i want to play a game where the main focus is the game. to be honest i want them to innovant and perfect gameplay not bring us a way to play the same game differently/ To be honest i love the main nintendo franchises, i really can't get enough of them,but i don't want to be playing on the rev and think to myself " i sure would love to see what the nintendo team could've done with the ps3 hardware"
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OH and here's a great question to ask the fanboys alike, if sony had went with the revolution idea for there system and forgoe the next gen graphics and it had been nintendo that built the powerful cell architecture, who would you be backing now? I know you'd be up in arms wondering what zelda would look like on there system, and you wouldn't have to worry about gameplay either, because you know the developers at nintendo are just as good at that. really think about it(same goes for the ds, the second you ask that question it seems to shut people up when they think about how good metroid wouldv'e been like on a powerful system like the psp, especially since it would also be returning to it's console controls[which i personally liked better] Auto targeting + metroid = awesome)
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by comedy - 2006-04-20 |
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» i agree with him
i personally have a psp, i would like a ds and am intending on buying a ps3 and a revolution... i have ps2 and gamecube also. basically i am a fan of both sony and nintendo, but dont get me wrong if they produce something crap i'm not buying it.
if it wasn't for homebrew i would have thrown my psp away in disgust a long time ago.
i just hope the rev lives up to the hype... for that matter i hope ps3 does too.
i hate xbox and all it stands for. also i hate 360, but you may have guessed that.
i personally have a psp, i would like a ds and am intending on buying a ps3 and a revolution... i have ps2 and gamecube also. basically i am a fan of both sony and nintendo, but dont get me wrong if they produce something crap i'm not buying it.
if it wasn't for homebrew i would have thrown my psp away in disgust a long time ago.
i just hope the rev lives up to the hype... for that matter i hope ps3 does too.
i hate xbox and all it stands for. also i hate 360, but you may have guessed that.
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by ssj3fox - 2006-04-20 |
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» Some reasons
Nintendo has said that they can't show games because of how competitive the market is (waiting for the right time)...
Also, they put a patent on the controller so that no one can make one like it.
Last, Iwata has stated that third parties have been making games for the Revolution since GDC last year. I feel that Red Steel is just the start of what we will see at E3...
Also keep in mind that if the DS is selling as well as the PSP in the US that means Nintendo is making more money on the DS then Sony is on the PSP because 1st party games make more money then 3rd.
Nintendo has said that they can't show games because of how competitive the market is (waiting for the right time)...
Also, they put a patent on the controller so that no one can make one like it.
Last, Iwata has stated that third parties have been making games for the Revolution since GDC last year. I feel that Red Steel is just the start of what we will see at E3...
Also keep in mind that if the DS is selling as well as the PSP in the US that means Nintendo is making more money on the DS then Sony is on the PSP because 1st party games make more money then 3rd.
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by Anonymous Coward (Unregistered) - 2006-04-20 |
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» RE: #20
So what you're saying is that graphics should be the emphasis? Granted that pretty visuals are a plus, but if the method of input hasn't changed how can it be called next-gen if the selling factor is graphics? Don't get me wrong, though. I enjoy my 360 a lot, but most of what's available is fairly bland in terms of actual content considering you're going to pay $60 for most titles. Much of what's there could've been done during the last console cycle albiet not as pretty to look at. While it is a big gamble for Nintendo, its an even bigger gamble for Sony; if Sony doesn't get the adoption rate they need, they're pretty much sunk.
I think the industry needs more than just fancy graphics and I think the Rev. will play a major role this cycle.
So what you're saying is that graphics should be the emphasis? Granted that pretty visuals are a plus, but if the method of input hasn't changed how can it be called next-gen if the selling factor is graphics? Don't get me wrong, though. I enjoy my 360 a lot, but most of what's available is fairly bland in terms of actual content considering you're going to pay $60 for most titles. Much of what's there could've been done during the last console cycle albiet not as pretty to look at. While it is a big gamble for Nintendo, its an even bigger gamble for Sony; if Sony doesn't get the adoption rate they need, they're pretty much sunk.
I think the industry needs more than just fancy graphics and I think the Rev. will play a major role this cycle.
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» RE:#23
"but if the method of input hasn't changed how can it be called next-gen" ::end qoute::
I'm sorry? when has the method of input ever dicated the coming of a new generation of gaming?(ok ok, analog sticks, but they were a brain child of the arcade joy stick which originally appeared on the atari, it was evolutionary not revolutionary) you act ike graphics are bad or something? you fail to realize that visual stimulation drives almost every thing you do(along with everything ese in the world) i mean we worship beautiful people, land costs signifigantly with a beautiful view, we plant flowers for their beauty, we buy expensive art, we buy music(music isn't visual but, still helps my point), hell we even have colors that we favor to be more beautiful than others(and it affects our buying choices[who wants a pink ds?])
I'm sick and tired of graphics bashing, why don't you just tell every graphic,3d, or character artist in the world to ***** off. I'm really psyched about the new technological advancement the ps3 offers, it allows us to do things we never thought possible with games(your not seeing much now, but you just wait)
and now your gonna say "where's the fun though" well, i'm sure you like everyone else is pysched about the new zelda game..right? you aren't worried that it's going to be boring as ***** are you? you know why, because nintendo is a good developer, and there going to put time into there games, there going to make sure you get hooked on the plot, the characters, and above all else enjoy the game. Now they aren't using a new advanced controller, are they?(well it will have rev support , but that's not gonna make the regular gamecube version suck will it)
There's nothing fundamentally wrong with out current controllers , you can make amazing, fun and deeply enthralling games (see zelda:wilight princess) So quit *****ing about the other next gen systems(i'm sick of hearing that the other consoles will fail and are horrible because of there lack of innovation) thats interesting because i assumed innovation would be made in the games not the controller.
"but if the method of input hasn't changed how can it be called next-gen" ::end qoute::
I'm sorry? when has the method of input ever dicated the coming of a new generation of gaming?(ok ok, analog sticks, but they were a brain child of the arcade joy stick which originally appeared on the atari, it was evolutionary not revolutionary) you act ike graphics are bad or something? you fail to realize that visual stimulation drives almost every thing you do(along with everything ese in the world) i mean we worship beautiful people, land costs signifigantly with a beautiful view, we plant flowers for their beauty, we buy expensive art, we buy music(music isn't visual but, still helps my point), hell we even have colors that we favor to be more beautiful than others(and it affects our buying choices[who wants a pink ds?])
I'm sick and tired of graphics bashing, why don't you just tell every graphic,3d, or character artist in the world to ***** off. I'm really psyched about the new technological advancement the ps3 offers, it allows us to do things we never thought possible with games(your not seeing much now, but you just wait)
and now your gonna say "where's the fun though" well, i'm sure you like everyone else is pysched about the new zelda game..right? you aren't worried that it's going to be boring as ***** are you? you know why, because nintendo is a good developer, and there going to put time into there games, there going to make sure you get hooked on the plot, the characters, and above all else enjoy the game. Now they aren't using a new advanced controller, are they?(well it will have rev support , but that's not gonna make the regular gamecube version suck will it)
There's nothing fundamentally wrong with out current controllers , you can make amazing, fun and deeply enthralling games (see zelda:wilight princess) So quit *****ing about the other next gen systems(i'm sick of hearing that the other consoles will fail and are horrible because of there lack of innovation) thats interesting because i assumed innovation would be made in the games not the controller.
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by Anonymous Coward (Unregistered) - 2006-04-20 |
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» Indeed
Exactly, the reason we buy new gaming console's isn't just because of new graphics, but because of new gaming elements, and A.I. Sure a little polish is nice, but thats not what makes next generation gaming revolutionary, its the hardware.
Exactly, the reason we buy new gaming console's isn't just because of new graphics, but because of new gaming elements, and A.I. Sure a little polish is nice, but thats not what makes next generation gaming revolutionary, its the hardware.
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by Anonymous Coward (Unregistered) - 2006-04-20 |
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» umm
different people value different things in games guys jeez
different people value different things in games guys jeez
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by Zin - 2006-04-20 |
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» "umm" no
You'r totally right we as gamers don't value games, or gaming console's for their game-play, plot, graphical capabilities, game elements, innovation, or technological advancement, we value them for the cute little 5-dollar plastic peripherals we use to play them with.
You'r totally right we as gamers don't value games, or gaming console's for their game-play, plot, graphical capabilities, game elements, innovation, or technological advancement, we value them for the cute little 5-dollar plastic peripherals we use to play them with.
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by Anonymous Coward (Unregistered) - 2006-04-20 |
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» WELL
25. » Indeed
Exactly, the reason we buy new gaming console's isn't just because of new graphics, but because of new gaming elements, and A.I.
THE REAL REASON WHY WE BUY NEW SYSTEM IS BECAUSE OF BETTER GRAPHICS AND CONTROLLER. FOR EXAMPLE GAMERS MOVING FROM NES TO SNES, WHY BECAUSE FOR BETTER GRAPHICS,SOUND,SPEED AND CONTROLLER. AND PLEASE TELL ME IF I AM NOT CORRECT.
BY DIEGO
25. » Indeed
Exactly, the reason we buy new gaming console's isn't just because of new graphics, but because of new gaming elements, and A.I.
THE REAL REASON WHY WE BUY NEW SYSTEM IS BECAUSE OF BETTER GRAPHICS AND CONTROLLER. FOR EXAMPLE GAMERS MOVING FROM NES TO SNES, WHY BECAUSE FOR BETTER GRAPHICS,SOUND,SPEED AND CONTROLLER. AND PLEASE TELL ME IF I AM NOT CORRECT.
BY DIEGO
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by darksquirrel - 2006-04-20 |
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» hmmm
i think zin put it well, if you think back through your gaming history you remember the games you played not the controller you played them with, every generation we see a controller upgrade of some sort(xbox-->360) but, it's never the focus. I think what Keita Takahashi was hitting on is that the focus needs to remain on the games, if you have a game idea you imagine how the game will play and then you imagine how to get the controller to do what you want with the idea you have.You don't look at a controller and say "ok, what kind of game can i make out of this?".
i think zin put it well, if you think back through your gaming history you remember the games you played not the controller you played them with, every generation we see a controller upgrade of some sort(xbox-->360) but, it's never the focus. I think what Keita Takahashi was hitting on is that the focus needs to remain on the games, if you have a game idea you imagine how the game will play and then you imagine how to get the controller to do what you want with the idea you have.You don't look at a controller and say "ok, what kind of game can i make out of this?".
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by Anonymous Coward (Unregistered) - 2006-04-20 |
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» What about the controller
who give a ***** about the nintendo revolution controller, All i care about are the games. This system is going to allow gamers to play games from the past and some.
who give a ***** about the nintendo revolution controller, All i care about are the games. This system is going to allow gamers to play games from the past and some.
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