Posted Apr 27, 2007 at 04:09PM by Ceasar S.
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by WoW (Unregistered) - 2007-04-27 |
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» This is great
Great news for the cell! It needs to move to traditional computers. I wonder what a laptop would cost? or a Desktop PC? They would be awesome. Hmmmmm, Take a PS3 and put it in a laptop case? With linux?
Great news for the cell! It needs to move to traditional computers. I wonder what a laptop would cost? or a Desktop PC? They would be awesome. Hmmmmm, Take a PS3 and put it in a laptop case? With linux?
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Re: xche78x (http://sw2.2ya.com) (Unregistered) - 2007-04-28 |
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» me too
i really like the idea of having a laptop or desktop with the CELL as processor. linux is OK but support is scarce compared to windows, so if they could just make a program for windows to run on Cell then that would be really awesome, if not then at least a nice All in one software for linux would be pretty much appreciated. oh and the computer must have geforce 8800 type/quality GPU and support to play windows games.
i really like the idea of having a laptop or desktop with the CELL as processor. linux is OK but support is scarce compared to windows, so if they could just make a program for windows to run on Cell then that would be really awesome, if not then at least a nice All in one software for linux would be pretty much appreciated. oh and the computer must have geforce 8800 type/quality GPU and support to play windows games.
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Re: 2xantu (Unregistered) - 2007-04-28 |
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» OS?
@xche78x
I don't think theres any Windows distro that supports PPC processors natively. Linux may be the most compatible, but I've yet to see Mac OSX run on that.
@xche78x
I don't think theres any Windows distro that supports PPC processors natively. Linux may be the most compatible, but I've yet to see Mac OSX run on that.
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by theTick197 - 2007-04-27 |
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» It will be awhile before the cell is on desktop computers..
If they ever go in that direction. x86 and x64 processors will be the main ones for quite awhile, especially with apple switching to intel also. Plus you would hardley be able to find any commercial apps for it. Thats why gentoo is great for the ps3 linux wise because it installs everything from source and makes it specific to the processor.
If they ever go in that direction. x86 and x64 processors will be the main ones for quite awhile, especially with apple switching to intel also. Plus you would hardley be able to find any commercial apps for it. Thats why gentoo is great for the ps3 linux wise because it installs everything from source and makes it specific to the processor.
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Re: Oner001 - 2007-04-27 |
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Very true but imagine if they put Cell technology to use in an Apple based computer? I myself am a PC guy but for video editing you have to go Apple....just a thought.
Very true but imagine if they put Cell technology to use in an Apple based computer? I myself am a PC guy but for video editing you have to go Apple....just a thought.
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by yo (Unregistered) - 2007-04-27 |
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» The thing is...
The thing is... we (myself included) don't know nothing and I repeat nothing about the cell. What it can do, what it could achieve...we don't know. That is why I say Sony knew what they were doing putting the cell in all ps3s... now IBM with cell into mainframes...
Soon... we'll get to see the features of the cell and what it can do.. I say we will be extremely surprise... let's wait.
The thing is... we (myself included) don't know nothing and I repeat nothing about the cell. What it can do, what it could achieve...we don't know. That is why I say Sony knew what they were doing putting the cell in all ps3s... now IBM with cell into mainframes...
Soon... we'll get to see the features of the cell and what it can do.. I say we will be extremely surprise... let's wait.
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Re: Orion (Unregistered) - 2007-04-28 |
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» "What it (cell) can do, what it could achieve...we don't know."
Its a processor, its not a magical sword, it has limits and its fairly easy to run a benchmark on it to find out its max performance in unrealistic situations.
That being said there is some uncertainty that it will ever reach those performance numbers(the real world is as perfect as the setting of benchmarks).
The cell is most suited for scientific computing, with large batches of numbers to be crunched, usually where the results aren't in realtime (ie not games, as you'll either run out of things to process or struggle to get everything done for one frame).
It is extremely unlikely we will ever see the cell in a desktop as its main cpu(maybe a co-processor due to the extra floating point power, but its extreme price rules that out), as its just not a practical solution for the types of processing.
Servers, yes but not webservers, but more likely servers in clusters at universities or research facilities.
Theres a limit to where we're going to see it too, I suspect mostly sony products to be using the cell in their Blu-ray players or other media devices, but I can't see everyone else switching over so quickly.
Its a processor, its not a magical sword, it has limits and its fairly easy to run a benchmark on it to find out its max performance in unrealistic situations.
That being said there is some uncertainty that it will ever reach those performance numbers(the real world is as perfect as the setting of benchmarks).
The cell is most suited for scientific computing, with large batches of numbers to be crunched, usually where the results aren't in realtime (ie not games, as you'll either run out of things to process or struggle to get everything done for one frame).
It is extremely unlikely we will ever see the cell in a desktop as its main cpu(maybe a co-processor due to the extra floating point power, but its extreme price rules that out), as its just not a practical solution for the types of processing.
Servers, yes but not webservers, but more likely servers in clusters at universities or research facilities.
Theres a limit to where we're going to see it too, I suspect mostly sony products to be using the cell in their Blu-ray players or other media devices, but I can't see everyone else switching over so quickly.
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Re: xmradio (Unregistered) - 2007-04-28 |
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» What else could it do
@Orion
The fact the Stanford Uni. used it to decompile protein structure, is that the only scientific thing the cell can do?
There are several possible desktop applications for it so lets list them:
For content creation...high definition video editing, raytracing, animation, realtime 2d filters, audio synthesis and compression.
For interactive playback and analysis: speech recognition, highspeed facial recognition, multiple streams of HD video, audio transfiguration.
For security and development: high bit level encryption, bruteforcing, smart decompiling, multipass optimized compiling, real time res.....
I could go on and on...there isnt any limit of what it could do, it just adds more possible future desktop applications. Ive yet to see the limits of Core2 Duo for me to upgrade to quad core.
I wish everyone would lighten up and accept that technology will move us forward or we wouldnt have gone this far if the transistor was never concieved of.
@Orion
The fact the Stanford Uni. used it to decompile protein structure, is that the only scientific thing the cell can do?
There are several possible desktop applications for it so lets list them:
For content creation...high definition video editing, raytracing, animation, realtime 2d filters, audio synthesis and compression.
For interactive playback and analysis: speech recognition, highspeed facial recognition, multiple streams of HD video, audio transfiguration.
For security and development: high bit level encryption, bruteforcing, smart decompiling, multipass optimized compiling, real time res.....
I could go on and on...there isnt any limit of what it could do, it just adds more possible future desktop applications. Ive yet to see the limits of Core2 Duo for me to upgrade to quad core.
I wish everyone would lighten up and accept that technology will move us forward or we wouldnt have gone this far if the transistor was never concieved of.
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Re: Orion (Unregistered) - 2007-04-30 |
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» Xmradio
Yes those suggests would all be sped up by using a cell with software written specifically for it.
However it will never replace the main cpu, as there isn't a big enough market of people that do these actions repetitively enough to benefit from using a cpu which would be more than likely slower in everything else.
The cell could be a good co-processor though it would have to get software support and everyone else seems to be going down the route of using graphics cards for those purposes instead.
I just don't see Cell having a commercially viable entrance into the desktop market, which is already dominated by the x86 (so much so apple even switch from PPC to x86).
The cell would also require much more work to reap the extra performance from, so either prices will go up for everyone (to cover the extra development costs) or they just won't bother because they can't guarantee that anyone has a cell cpu in their computer.
x86 will continue to march on (infact they even extended the architecture to 64-bit so it would last us past 4GB of memory, instead of just abandoning it for something else) and will probably be more than enough power for the majority of people at an affordable price.
Yes those suggests would all be sped up by using a cell with software written specifically for it.
However it will never replace the main cpu, as there isn't a big enough market of people that do these actions repetitively enough to benefit from using a cpu which would be more than likely slower in everything else.
The cell could be a good co-processor though it would have to get software support and everyone else seems to be going down the route of using graphics cards for those purposes instead.
I just don't see Cell having a commercially viable entrance into the desktop market, which is already dominated by the x86 (so much so apple even switch from PPC to x86).
The cell would also require much more work to reap the extra performance from, so either prices will go up for everyone (to cover the extra development costs) or they just won't bother because they can't guarantee that anyone has a cell cpu in their computer.
x86 will continue to march on (infact they even extended the architecture to 64-bit so it would last us past 4GB of memory, instead of just abandoning it for something else) and will probably be more than enough power for the majority of people at an affordable price.
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