Posted Nov 13, 2009 at 10:56AM by Karl B.
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Good news, RPG faithful. Final Fantasy XIII (Xbox360, PlayStation 3) now has a US and Euro launch date.
Square Enix today announced Lightning (and Snow and Vanille and all those other guys) will strike the West on March 9. Props to Square Enix for following through on that "within three months of the Japanese release" estimate. The company also announced that the Leona Lewis song, "My Hands," will be the game's theme song. Here's a video courtesy of Joystiq: Related articles: |
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by poroporo - 7 days ago |
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» no disrespect but
Why'd they have to use some random *****ing guy ?
Any changing the opening song to please US audience ? Really ?
I'm importing it, since it's the only way to have original voices.
Why'd they have to use some random *****ing guy ?
Any changing the opening song to please US audience ? Really ?
I'm importing it, since it's the only way to have original voices.
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Re: Silver-Tiger - 7 days ago |
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» ....
Yeah, I think it is unacceptable that the US and EU version won't contain the japanase language just so that the 360 isn't worse. What the f*ck have PS3 owners to do with 360 owners. Why do Ps3 owners have to suffer just because of 360?
In other news: Motomu Toriyama has a giant enemy wart in his face.
Yeah, I think it is unacceptable that the US and EU version won't contain the japanase language just so that the 360 isn't worse. What the f*ck have PS3 owners to do with 360 owners. Why do Ps3 owners have to suffer just because of 360?
In other news: Motomu Toriyama has a giant enemy wart in his face.
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Re: Teivin - 7 days ago |
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» Hm
A lot of Japanese games are coming out without both both tracks. Why? Who knows. Some publishers claim its to give the game a less 'alien' feel, others because they want to promote their english VA. Some games come out without an english track at all, because they are a niche title.
In the end, unless you're fluent in Japanese, you're just being a weeaboo. Get over it. If you are, import. Problem solved.
tl;dr: QQ moar
A lot of Japanese games are coming out without both both tracks. Why? Who knows. Some publishers claim its to give the game a less 'alien' feel, others because they want to promote their english VA. Some games come out without an english track at all, because they are a niche title.
In the end, unless you're fluent in Japanese, you're just being a weeaboo. Get over it. If you are, import. Problem solved.
tl;dr: QQ moar
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Re: Jez - 7 days ago |
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» rolleyes
Moan moan whinge whinge moan. Isn't it possible to have gaming news without someone finding something to moan about, just for once? Hehehe.
Anyway, I doubt the lack of the Japanese language in the US/EU versions has anything to do with the 360 (sorry, but I really don't). Imo that's just a classic case of gamers jumping to conclusions (like the claim the 360 would lead to a *massive* delay over the JP version). And as Teivin mentions, PS3 gamers can just import the Japanese version if it's really that important to them.
Still, a release date of March 9th next year is great news. Can't wait to play it.
Moan moan whinge whinge moan. Isn't it possible to have gaming news without someone finding something to moan about, just for once? Hehehe.
Anyway, I doubt the lack of the Japanese language in the US/EU versions has anything to do with the 360 (sorry, but I really don't). Imo that's just a classic case of gamers jumping to conclusions (like the claim the 360 would lead to a *massive* delay over the JP version). And as Teivin mentions, PS3 gamers can just import the Japanese version if it's really that important to them.
Still, a release date of March 9th next year is great news. Can't wait to play it.
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Re: Teflon02 - 7 days ago |
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» @ Jez
Actually a person from SE said that because the DVD's dont contain the space the need for it that they can't, and they said they have to lock off areas at certain parts of the ps3 version because the area wasnt on that particular disk on the 360 version
Actually a person from SE said that because the DVD's dont contain the space the need for it that they can't, and they said they have to lock off areas at certain parts of the ps3 version because the area wasnt on that particular disk on the 360 version
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Re: Jez - 7 days ago |
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» Not the game itself Teflon02!
Square Enix said (numerous times) that the PS3 version of the GAME is not affected by the 360 version. That's a fact. Hence they said they were focussing on finishing the Japanese version of the game first (and how can the 360 change that version when it's not even being released on the 360 over there?!).
The main issue they mention regarding the 360 was how MANY DVDs they'd need to use to get the game onto the 360. That's it. Nothing about CHANGING the PS3 version because of the 360. SE have confirmed that the game itself remains completely unchanged!
And before others jump in, I'm talking about CHANGES to the game itself, not EXTRAS. Multiple language voice tracks would actually be an extra, since the Japanese version ONLY has the Japanese voices (i.e. ONE voice track). Therefore I fail to see why the US/EU versions ALSO having one voice track is such an issue for some.
Now, how big is FFXIII? My guess is that like 99.9% of all PS3 games (i.e. all except MGS4), it fills a standard 25GB Blu-ray disc, and hence will come on 3 discs for the 360.
If I'm right, that means there's not enough room on a 25GB Blu-ray disc to include BOTH the English and Japanese voices, but there would be on a 50GB disc. But do you REALLY think SE can justified putting FFXIII on the more expensive 50GB Blu-ray discs in the US/EU just so they can include the Japanese voices to satisfy a very tiny minority of PS3 gamers, especially when those same gamer can import the Japanese version if they wanted to? I really don't think so.
Hence imo, having no Japanese voices is due to the lack of space on the 25GB Blu-ray disc (together with SE's reluctance to use a 50GB disc for the reasons I've given above), rather than it having anything to do with the 360.
That's my guess over this language issue, but I'll have to wait and see what type of Blu-ray disc FFXIII is released on in Japan first. If it's 25GB, then that strengthens my argument, but if it's 50GB, then my argument collapses and it's over to you. :)
Square Enix said (numerous times) that the PS3 version of the GAME is not affected by the 360 version. That's a fact. Hence they said they were focussing on finishing the Japanese version of the game first (and how can the 360 change that version when it's not even being released on the 360 over there?!).
The main issue they mention regarding the 360 was how MANY DVDs they'd need to use to get the game onto the 360. That's it. Nothing about CHANGING the PS3 version because of the 360. SE have confirmed that the game itself remains completely unchanged!
And before others jump in, I'm talking about CHANGES to the game itself, not EXTRAS. Multiple language voice tracks would actually be an extra, since the Japanese version ONLY has the Japanese voices (i.e. ONE voice track). Therefore I fail to see why the US/EU versions ALSO having one voice track is such an issue for some.
Now, how big is FFXIII? My guess is that like 99.9% of all PS3 games (i.e. all except MGS4), it fills a standard 25GB Blu-ray disc, and hence will come on 3 discs for the 360.
If I'm right, that means there's not enough room on a 25GB Blu-ray disc to include BOTH the English and Japanese voices, but there would be on a 50GB disc. But do you REALLY think SE can justified putting FFXIII on the more expensive 50GB Blu-ray discs in the US/EU just so they can include the Japanese voices to satisfy a very tiny minority of PS3 gamers, especially when those same gamer can import the Japanese version if they wanted to? I really don't think so.
Hence imo, having no Japanese voices is due to the lack of space on the 25GB Blu-ray disc (together with SE's reluctance to use a 50GB disc for the reasons I've given above), rather than it having anything to do with the 360.
That's my guess over this language issue, but I'll have to wait and see what type of Blu-ray disc FFXIII is released on in Japan first. If it's 25GB, then that strengthens my argument, but if it's 50GB, then my argument collapses and it's over to you. :)
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Re: Freya - 7 days ago |
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» @Teflon02
Come on man. I favor for Japanese dialogue too but don't sound like a dumb fanboy. FFXIII is made on the PS3 in Japan. It's PS3 exclusive in Japan. Plus the game engine SE uses fits for both the 360 and the PS3.
Come on man. I favor for Japanese dialogue too but don't sound like a dumb fanboy. FFXIII is made on the PS3 in Japan. It's PS3 exclusive in Japan. Plus the game engine SE uses fits for both the 360 and the PS3.
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Re: Spino - 7 days ago |
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» True, But...
There are a few factors we don't know to come to a full conclusion. Here are the facts: 1. We are unable to backtrack because of space issues on the XBOX. 2. The language is in english only because of size issues. 3. A worker on FF XIII came out to the public and stated that the PS3 version is not the best it can be because of porting issues. Instead, the PS3's quality was sacrificed to make the XBOX version equal. Same for XBOX version.
Now for factors we do not know, the size issue might very well be non-cost effective. Say, the game now fits in at almost 25gb on 1 Blu-ray. Adding in a second language might bump it to 27 GB and that would make no sense on SE's part to sell a 50 GB disc with only a little more than half memory used. However, we can still speculate on other features that were not included to solve DVD issues on the XBOX. Say for example, we were able to backtrack. Maybe that would fill up the Blu-Ray another 10 GB. That gives it a total of 37 GB. Say, the graphics were better optimized for the PS3. That might add another 10GB. Although these are fake numbers, the fact remains that there is much more that the FF XIII team could have done to the PS3 version if they do not worry about the amount of DVD's on the XBOX end.
You are correct in saying the Game has never been changed. In fact, the game was set and maybe only extra content was removed from the concept plan. However, in a generation where we strive for getting the most bang for our buck, can we not expect the developers to go the extra mile to make the game from Great to AMAZING?! The video game market is a huge thing and new milestones are set by games like Uncharted 2. By removing this extra content, they did not make the game the best it could be. The FF series is commercial enough to sell copies by name alone but as the consumers, we should not be forced to settle for this because M$ paid off SE to make it multiplatform.
As for Versus XIII, we know that will be PS3 only and it is expected that Tetsuya Nomura will optimize everything for the PS3 and will make it the game that everyone wants it to be. We know as fans that since they focus on the one platform, they can make the game better than this multiplatform game.
I take offense to the Weaboo crack. I like to play games in the original jap because it allows me to experience the game in its originality. Due to English localization, cultural terms and jokes are usually removed and replaced with shoddy filler sentences. I may not be completely fluent in Jap but the subs that are usually given in the english localized counterparts and a little prior japanese knowledge allows me to get a basic idea of what kind of joke they are making. It is also a fact that there are many people that also like to play in the original jap voices. The japanese menus are obstacles and we are able to get around it by playing the english version with the original voices. Just because you don't mind it doesn't mean that others will conform to your views as well. See games like Eternal Sonata or Valkyria Chronicles for this feature.
Please don't answer back with comments like Don't play it if you don't like it. Or you don't need to feel a sense of them owing you anything. Comments like these have no depth when it comes to comparing the 2 versions of FFXIII.
TL;DR The extra content of the final game might have been sacrificed to accommodate both systems. Game is not optimized on either one. Even though nothing is CHANGED, it can be assumed that features have been REMOVED do to porting issues and disc space.
There are a few factors we don't know to come to a full conclusion. Here are the facts: 1. We are unable to backtrack because of space issues on the XBOX. 2. The language is in english only because of size issues. 3. A worker on FF XIII came out to the public and stated that the PS3 version is not the best it can be because of porting issues. Instead, the PS3's quality was sacrificed to make the XBOX version equal. Same for XBOX version.
Now for factors we do not know, the size issue might very well be non-cost effective. Say, the game now fits in at almost 25gb on 1 Blu-ray. Adding in a second language might bump it to 27 GB and that would make no sense on SE's part to sell a 50 GB disc with only a little more than half memory used. However, we can still speculate on other features that were not included to solve DVD issues on the XBOX. Say for example, we were able to backtrack. Maybe that would fill up the Blu-Ray another 10 GB. That gives it a total of 37 GB. Say, the graphics were better optimized for the PS3. That might add another 10GB. Although these are fake numbers, the fact remains that there is much more that the FF XIII team could have done to the PS3 version if they do not worry about the amount of DVD's on the XBOX end.
You are correct in saying the Game has never been changed. In fact, the game was set and maybe only extra content was removed from the concept plan. However, in a generation where we strive for getting the most bang for our buck, can we not expect the developers to go the extra mile to make the game from Great to AMAZING?! The video game market is a huge thing and new milestones are set by games like Uncharted 2. By removing this extra content, they did not make the game the best it could be. The FF series is commercial enough to sell copies by name alone but as the consumers, we should not be forced to settle for this because M$ paid off SE to make it multiplatform.
As for Versus XIII, we know that will be PS3 only and it is expected that Tetsuya Nomura will optimize everything for the PS3 and will make it the game that everyone wants it to be. We know as fans that since they focus on the one platform, they can make the game better than this multiplatform game.
I take offense to the Weaboo crack. I like to play games in the original jap because it allows me to experience the game in its originality. Due to English localization, cultural terms and jokes are usually removed and replaced with shoddy filler sentences. I may not be completely fluent in Jap but the subs that are usually given in the english localized counterparts and a little prior japanese knowledge allows me to get a basic idea of what kind of joke they are making. It is also a fact that there are many people that also like to play in the original jap voices. The japanese menus are obstacles and we are able to get around it by playing the english version with the original voices. Just because you don't mind it doesn't mean that others will conform to your views as well. See games like Eternal Sonata or Valkyria Chronicles for this feature.
Please don't answer back with comments like Don't play it if you don't like it. Or you don't need to feel a sense of them owing you anything. Comments like these have no depth when it comes to comparing the 2 versions of FFXIII.
TL;DR The extra content of the final game might have been sacrificed to accommodate both systems. Game is not optimized on either one. Even though nothing is CHANGED, it can be assumed that features have been REMOVED do to porting issues and disc space.
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Re: truk - 6 days ago |
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» re: shino
firstly please point me where you found these "facts" about ffxiii.
secondly, what you said about the game being better than it can be can be said about every game; maybe if the team spent another 10 years making the game, they can figure out a way to put 5 languages in the game, that way it can be 5 times as better! get over it. right now the xbox games are as high in quality as ps3 games are. if you want to blame anyone, blame square not microsoft.
youre just a picky eater. "i want to experience the game in it's originality"? really? how lame is that? are you japanese? did you grow up in japan? why would a joke in japanese, in reference to their culture, be funny to anyone who hasnt grown up in that culture? plus, the characters dont even look japanese. for god sake's there's a black guy! did you not notice that? they're not even human! they shouldnt even be speaking any human language at all!
firstly please point me where you found these "facts" about ffxiii.
secondly, what you said about the game being better than it can be can be said about every game; maybe if the team spent another 10 years making the game, they can figure out a way to put 5 languages in the game, that way it can be 5 times as better! get over it. right now the xbox games are as high in quality as ps3 games are. if you want to blame anyone, blame square not microsoft.
youre just a picky eater. "i want to experience the game in it's originality"? really? how lame is that? are you japanese? did you grow up in japan? why would a joke in japanese, in reference to their culture, be funny to anyone who hasnt grown up in that culture? plus, the characters dont even look japanese. for god sake's there's a black guy! did you not notice that? they're not even human! they shouldnt even be speaking any human language at all!
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Re: houaruto - 6 days ago |
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» @ truk
humm you are 1 of those close minded people that thinks everything is always better.....and probably not capable of learning a second language to understand how complex can play when trying 2 translate it 2 another......for a word that has 3 different meanings 2 be translated 2 one set word demerits it greatly.......if some one wants 2 get ffxlll in its original experience not filtered out he has every right 2 his opinion ...........so what u said can be greatly appreciated if u just shove it up your A55
humm you are 1 of those close minded people that thinks everything is always better.....and probably not capable of learning a second language to understand how complex can play when trying 2 translate it 2 another......for a word that has 3 different meanings 2 be translated 2 one set word demerits it greatly.......if some one wants 2 get ffxlll in its original experience not filtered out he has every right 2 his opinion ...........so what u said can be greatly appreciated if u just shove it up your A55
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Re: Jez - 6 days ago |
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» Spino, many of your comments are not the facts...
...they are assumptions.
You said "A worker on FF XIII came out to the public and stated that the PS3 version is not the best it can be because of porting issues. Instead, the PS3's quality was sacrificed to make the XBOX version equal. Same for XBOX version."
This is not a fact, it's actaully false information. Can you name that 'worker'? I doubt it. Can you provide a link? Again, I doubt you can. You're either making assuptions here, or you're recalling something you read on a games forum, but in each case, it's not a fact.
Come on, if what you said was true, it would have been BIG gaming news everywhere on reputable websites and magazines. Can you imagine the headlines? :) And yet they are no-where to be found.
FFXIII is exactly the same game it would have been before the XBox 360 announcement. The issue for SE is how to split the game up for multiple discs on the 360, which has nothing to do with the PS3 version. Nothing has been cut out or changed on the PS3 because of the 360, and no-one has provided any evidence of this happening, only assumptions.
I'm pleased you agree that using a 50GB disc if an extra language pushes the game size up to a little above 25GB would make no sense, however you also said "the fact remains that there is much more that the FF XIII team could have done to the PS3 version if they do not worry about the amount of DVD's on the XBOX end". This is not a fact, it's an assumption on your part. If (like 99.999% of PS3 games) FFXIII was designed for a 25GB Blu-ray disc from the start, then what could have been done on a 50GB disc is irrelevant and has nothing to do with the 360. Hence nothing has been removed, because it wasn't there in the first place!
Look at the recent Uncharted 2 which you mentioned. A truely brilliant game and yet that game 'only' fills a 25GB Blu-ray disc! So why not 50GB? No really, why not if it's so easy and has so many benefits? Think of this, if (in a parallel universe :D) they had announced a 360 version of Uncharted 2 before the game was released, you and others would be saying the SAME thing you said about FFXIII, claiming ND had to cut the game down and/or change it on the PS3 because of the 360, that it's on a 25GB disc instead of 50GB disc because of DVDs on the 360, and that it could have been better if it wasn't for the 360 etc, even if the PS3 version is EXACTLY the same as we see it today!
Can you not see the point I'm making here? All PS3 games except MGS4 are on 25GB discs, and therefore ALL the arguments you make about what the extra space of a 50GB disc could provide applies to ALL PS3 games except MGS4. So why isn't 50GB more common then? Why assume FFXIII is on a 25GB disc because of the 360 when it's 25GB for all but one PS3 game? Now if 50GB was the standard for PS3 games, THEN I may have been inclined to think the 360 had something to do with the game size.
FF Versus XIII would be interesting to see as it's a PS3 exclusive. However, if it's also released on a 25GB disc, and if it's graphically is no better than FFXIII despite being a PS3 exclusive, what would the excuses be then? ;)
Lastly, regarding the weeboo comment, I'll let the person who made that common reply to the rest of your post. :)
...they are assumptions.
You said "A worker on FF XIII came out to the public and stated that the PS3 version is not the best it can be because of porting issues. Instead, the PS3's quality was sacrificed to make the XBOX version equal. Same for XBOX version."
This is not a fact, it's actaully false information. Can you name that 'worker'? I doubt it. Can you provide a link? Again, I doubt you can. You're either making assuptions here, or you're recalling something you read on a games forum, but in each case, it's not a fact.
Come on, if what you said was true, it would have been BIG gaming news everywhere on reputable websites and magazines. Can you imagine the headlines? :) And yet they are no-where to be found.
FFXIII is exactly the same game it would have been before the XBox 360 announcement. The issue for SE is how to split the game up for multiple discs on the 360, which has nothing to do with the PS3 version. Nothing has been cut out or changed on the PS3 because of the 360, and no-one has provided any evidence of this happening, only assumptions.
I'm pleased you agree that using a 50GB disc if an extra language pushes the game size up to a little above 25GB would make no sense, however you also said "the fact remains that there is much more that the FF XIII team could have done to the PS3 version if they do not worry about the amount of DVD's on the XBOX end". This is not a fact, it's an assumption on your part. If (like 99.999% of PS3 games) FFXIII was designed for a 25GB Blu-ray disc from the start, then what could have been done on a 50GB disc is irrelevant and has nothing to do with the 360. Hence nothing has been removed, because it wasn't there in the first place!
Look at the recent Uncharted 2 which you mentioned. A truely brilliant game and yet that game 'only' fills a 25GB Blu-ray disc! So why not 50GB? No really, why not if it's so easy and has so many benefits? Think of this, if (in a parallel universe :D) they had announced a 360 version of Uncharted 2 before the game was released, you and others would be saying the SAME thing you said about FFXIII, claiming ND had to cut the game down and/or change it on the PS3 because of the 360, that it's on a 25GB disc instead of 50GB disc because of DVDs on the 360, and that it could have been better if it wasn't for the 360 etc, even if the PS3 version is EXACTLY the same as we see it today!
Can you not see the point I'm making here? All PS3 games except MGS4 are on 25GB discs, and therefore ALL the arguments you make about what the extra space of a 50GB disc could provide applies to ALL PS3 games except MGS4. So why isn't 50GB more common then? Why assume FFXIII is on a 25GB disc because of the 360 when it's 25GB for all but one PS3 game? Now if 50GB was the standard for PS3 games, THEN I may have been inclined to think the 360 had something to do with the game size.
FF Versus XIII would be interesting to see as it's a PS3 exclusive. However, if it's also released on a 25GB disc, and if it's graphically is no better than FFXIII despite being a PS3 exclusive, what would the excuses be then? ;)
Lastly, regarding the weeboo comment, I'll let the person who made that common reply to the rest of your post. :)
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Re: Teivin - 6 days ago |
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» Spino and whoever else
You know what, I'm fluent in Japanese and I couldnt honestly care less about the tracks being there.
Honestly, the jokes aren't that funny. At all. Maybe some obsession with anime or the like has people thinking that the japanese is by default better. It really isn't. A lot of voice acting in japanese is really hammy and terrible as well. I guess what could be said in defense is that because you cant understand it and dont know how it should sound, that you wont notice how horrifically bad it is... or something?
As for all the QQing about the PS3 version being compromised... prove it? If SE wanted to, they'd just go the star ocean 4 route and make people change discs for certain areas, if it was so important.
Face it, SE has slowly edged towards making backtracking nota part of their games, regardless. They are trying to make a cinematic experience to cater to the braindead generation of gamers who cant function without pretty graphics and large waypoint markers.
Simple fact. My sources? Every SE game released in the last two years.
You know what, I'm fluent in Japanese and I couldnt honestly care less about the tracks being there.
Honestly, the jokes aren't that funny. At all. Maybe some obsession with anime or the like has people thinking that the japanese is by default better. It really isn't. A lot of voice acting in japanese is really hammy and terrible as well. I guess what could be said in defense is that because you cant understand it and dont know how it should sound, that you wont notice how horrifically bad it is... or something?
As for all the QQing about the PS3 version being compromised... prove it? If SE wanted to, they'd just go the star ocean 4 route and make people change discs for certain areas, if it was so important.
Face it, SE has slowly edged towards making backtracking nota part of their games, regardless. They are trying to make a cinematic experience to cater to the braindead generation of gamers who cant function without pretty graphics and large waypoint markers.
Simple fact. My sources? Every SE game released in the last two years.
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Re: Jez - 6 days ago |
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» Oh and, talking of dual-layer Blu-ray games...
... in addition to MGS4, there's also LBP and Resistance 2 I believe.
Any more?
... in addition to MGS4, there's also LBP and Resistance 2 I believe.
Any more?
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Re: truk - 5 days ago |
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» re: houaruto
dear god, you're such a bone head. first of all, you're argument about "having a right to an opinion" is bogus especially when you're *****ing about an opinion. i don't know if you've noticed your own contradiction.
now, let me explain something really simple: localization is important because of the exact fact you and spino are so wah-wah about; reference made to japanese culture will not translate well to another culture. so, to make it understandable, they will use north american culture that is synonymous to the japanese reference. so for example, when someone in china says "go die in the streets" (obviously in cantonese/mandarin), the north american culture equivalent would be "***** you".
so, houaruto, go die in the streets.
dear god, you're such a bone head. first of all, you're argument about "having a right to an opinion" is bogus especially when you're *****ing about an opinion. i don't know if you've noticed your own contradiction.
now, let me explain something really simple: localization is important because of the exact fact you and spino are so wah-wah about; reference made to japanese culture will not translate well to another culture. so, to make it understandable, they will use north american culture that is synonymous to the japanese reference. so for example, when someone in china says "go die in the streets" (obviously in cantonese/mandarin), the north american culture equivalent would be "***** you".
so, houaruto, go die in the streets.
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Re: truk - 5 days ago |
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» my bad should a japanese reference
oh well, i dont know any. THANK GOD FFXIII IS IN ENGLISH!
oh well, i dont know any. THANK GOD FFXIII IS IN ENGLISH!
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by Esaar - 7 days ago |
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» Simple
It's quite plain and simple. If they release the PS3 version with the Japanese voices and other goodies that the Xbox version doesn't have, then more people will buy the PS3 version and more PS3s will be sold just because of this.
And Microsoft simply cannot let this happen. So they literally paid elephant sized ***** loads of money to Square Enix when the licensing deal with made with Microsoft to make the Xbox version mirror the PS3 version exactly.
That's it.
It's quite plain and simple. If they release the PS3 version with the Japanese voices and other goodies that the Xbox version doesn't have, then more people will buy the PS3 version and more PS3s will be sold just because of this.
And Microsoft simply cannot let this happen. So they literally paid elephant sized ***** loads of money to Square Enix when the licensing deal with made with Microsoft to make the Xbox version mirror the PS3 version exactly.
That's it.
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Re: damonous - 6 days ago |
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» Well said, Esaar
Many above have hashed-about all the details. But the bottom line is that M$ *paid* to have the PS3 version (or, let's just say THE game version) 'locked' at a performance/feature level that matches their machine. That's all.
Many above have hashed-about all the details. But the bottom line is that M$ *paid* to have the PS3 version (or, let's just say THE game version) 'locked' at a performance/feature level that matches their machine. That's all.
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Re: Jez - 6 days ago |
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» Rolleyes
You two can convince yourselves all you like, but the fact is, the 360 has not effected the PS3 version, and MS has not paid SE to make the PS3 version worse than it could have been. Your claims are really just fanboy comments with no evidence to back it up (none at all).
You two can convince yourselves all you like, but the fact is, the 360 has not effected the PS3 version, and MS has not paid SE to make the PS3 version worse than it could have been. Your claims are really just fanboy comments with no evidence to back it up (none at all).
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Re: Master Chef - 5 days ago |
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» Agreed with Jez
I see lots of people making these accusations without any proof or any kind of evidence what so ever.
I can make up bullsh*t too if I don't have to back it up with anything. You know Steve Jobs eats babies and throws sacks of puppies into rivers? And he does 10 hookers a day. It's all true, just ask my sources, Me, Myself, and I. lolololol
I see lots of people making these accusations without any proof or any kind of evidence what so ever.
I can make up bullsh*t too if I don't have to back it up with anything. You know Steve Jobs eats babies and throws sacks of puppies into rivers? And he does 10 hookers a day. It's all true, just ask my sources, Me, Myself, and I. lolololol
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Re: Esaar - 4 days ago |
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» haha
lol. You guys are really naive aren't you. The "proof" as you put it, is the licensing deal itself. Microsoft didn't pay Square Enix money are you kidding me?
Perhaps you live in a fantasy world but when in the real world that I live in games are LICENSED and it costs MONEY. This is the money I am talking about and that is industry standard.
Now, when this LICENSING DEAL is made, everything is on the table and negotiations are agreed upon.
Now, I am merely speculating that when these negotiations took place, there is a very very good chance one of them was something to the effect of: "We will pay you $XXXXX to make the Xbox version mirror the PS3" version.
They didn't need to say "make the PS3 version worse" No. When the deal was made, and both parties agreed upon "Xbox version will mirror PS3 version" then right then and there, many things are stripped out of the PS3 version. The things that Xbox cannot possibly support. It wasn't "directly intentional" It was just how should I put it: "a casualty of war"
So please stop being naive and whiny babies. You want proof? How about I ask you for proof that the PS3 version WASN'T tampered with. Can you provide any proof?
I do not know the internal workings of Square Enix. I can only speculate and guess. However, it is an educated guess when I say that we all were promised japanese voices and quite suddenly we found out that there would be no japanese voices, coincidentally right after the Xbox version was announced.
lol. You guys are really naive aren't you. The "proof" as you put it, is the licensing deal itself. Microsoft didn't pay Square Enix money are you kidding me?
Perhaps you live in a fantasy world but when in the real world that I live in games are LICENSED and it costs MONEY. This is the money I am talking about and that is industry standard.
Now, when this LICENSING DEAL is made, everything is on the table and negotiations are agreed upon.
Now, I am merely speculating that when these negotiations took place, there is a very very good chance one of them was something to the effect of: "We will pay you $XXXXX to make the Xbox version mirror the PS3" version.
They didn't need to say "make the PS3 version worse" No. When the deal was made, and both parties agreed upon "Xbox version will mirror PS3 version" then right then and there, many things are stripped out of the PS3 version. The things that Xbox cannot possibly support. It wasn't "directly intentional" It was just how should I put it: "a casualty of war"
So please stop being naive and whiny babies. You want proof? How about I ask you for proof that the PS3 version WASN'T tampered with. Can you provide any proof?
I do not know the internal workings of Square Enix. I can only speculate and guess. However, it is an educated guess when I say that we all were promised japanese voices and quite suddenly we found out that there would be no japanese voices, coincidentally right after the Xbox version was announced.
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Re: Jez - 3 days ago |
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» Essar ...
... there's a saying which you're probably familiar with, which is "Put up or Shut up". :)
Since the very first day FFXIII was announced for the XBox 360, gamers like you have been claiming the SAME things over and over again without any proof at all.
You claim the PS3 version was stripped down because of the 360, therefore prove it. You claim MS paid SE to make them the same, so again prove it. YOU are the one making the claims, therefore it's for YOU to provide proof. Afterall, if some gamer came here saying nonsense like "Yeah, MGS4 was going to be ported to the 360, even MS said so, but Sony paid Konami to make it PS3 exclusive", then you would rightfully challenge his unproven beliefs and ask him to prove it. Right?
The fact of the matter is that NONE of us know the exact details of the deal which saw FFXIII being ported to the 360, therefore no matter how much you WANT to believe something is true, it doesn't make it so, and hence it's rather patronizing to call others naive for not accepting your unproven beliefs.
Also, for ANY game, consoles are more limited by THEMSELVES, than by other formats. For example, there are a number of PS3 versions of multiformat games which lack certain details seen in the 360 version, mostly due to the PS3 having less memory (RAM) available during gameplay than the 360 (so don't claim they're all bad ports). So why aren't those details stripped out of the 360 version to make them the same as the PS3? Why isn't the framerate brought down on the faster version (360 or PS3) to make them both the same? Why isn't the resolution dropped on one console to match the other?. Hence FFXIII on the PS3 is limited by the PS3 itself, not the 360, and vice-versa.
And as usual, like alot of gamers, you twist rumours and forum chatter into so-called facts. Spino did this earlier, and here you said "we all were promised japanese voices and quite suddenly we found out that there would be no japanese voices, coincidentally right after the Xbox version was announced". Eh? What promise? Provide a link to that please! At best, SE would have said it's a "maybe", they would NOT have announced it as a feature long before the game's release.
So if you're going to laugh at others and call them naive, you should at least know what you're talking about first, and also have proof to back up what you're saying. Speculation, assumptions and rumours and NOT the same as facts. Never have been, never will be.
... there's a saying which you're probably familiar with, which is "Put up or Shut up". :)
Since the very first day FFXIII was announced for the XBox 360, gamers like you have been claiming the SAME things over and over again without any proof at all.
You claim the PS3 version was stripped down because of the 360, therefore prove it. You claim MS paid SE to make them the same, so again prove it. YOU are the one making the claims, therefore it's for YOU to provide proof. Afterall, if some gamer came here saying nonsense like "Yeah, MGS4 was going to be ported to the 360, even MS said so, but Sony paid Konami to make it PS3 exclusive", then you would rightfully challenge his unproven beliefs and ask him to prove it. Right?
The fact of the matter is that NONE of us know the exact details of the deal which saw FFXIII being ported to the 360, therefore no matter how much you WANT to believe something is true, it doesn't make it so, and hence it's rather patronizing to call others naive for not accepting your unproven beliefs.
Also, for ANY game, consoles are more limited by THEMSELVES, than by other formats. For example, there are a number of PS3 versions of multiformat games which lack certain details seen in the 360 version, mostly due to the PS3 having less memory (RAM) available during gameplay than the 360 (so don't claim they're all bad ports). So why aren't those details stripped out of the 360 version to make them the same as the PS3? Why isn't the framerate brought down on the faster version (360 or PS3) to make them both the same? Why isn't the resolution dropped on one console to match the other?. Hence FFXIII on the PS3 is limited by the PS3 itself, not the 360, and vice-versa.
And as usual, like alot of gamers, you twist rumours and forum chatter into so-called facts. Spino did this earlier, and here you said "we all were promised japanese voices and quite suddenly we found out that there would be no japanese voices, coincidentally right after the Xbox version was announced". Eh? What promise? Provide a link to that please! At best, SE would have said it's a "maybe", they would NOT have announced it as a feature long before the game's release.
So if you're going to laugh at others and call them naive, you should at least know what you're talking about first, and also have proof to back up what you're saying. Speculation, assumptions and rumours and NOT the same as facts. Never have been, never will be.
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by truk - 6 days ago |
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» no japanese track: who cares?
you have to be a complete tool to think that the game is going to better if there was 2 audio tracks.
what is the benefit of having japanese on there as well?
you have to be a complete tool to think that the game is going to better if there was 2 audio tracks.
what is the benefit of having japanese on there as well?
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Re: fearlubu - 6 days ago |
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» well
its for those who perfer the original VA? im not sure if the JP version has subtitles
idk, i know its not a big deal...but why not just throw it in? if its because of needing anther disc for the 360 then why not just give the PS3 the extra JAP VA? either way it shouldnt be too much of a big deal....
im quite sure most people perfer the original VA in anime opposed to most English VAs.....just a thought, no? *remissness about Dynasty Warriors*
omg...
its for those who perfer the original VA? im not sure if the JP version has subtitles
idk, i know its not a big deal...but why not just throw it in? if its because of needing anther disc for the 360 then why not just give the PS3 the extra JAP VA? either way it shouldnt be too much of a big deal....
im quite sure most people perfer the original VA in anime opposed to most English VAs.....just a thought, no? *remissness about Dynasty Warriors*
omg...
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Re: houaruto - 6 days ago |
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» what an idiot
wow i hope you live in a communist country whe you get told what 2 eat, where 2 work, when to watch tv n what games you are allow to play or not, when 2 take a $Hl#.............unlike you we want basic rights such as being able 2 choose and decide for ourself
wow i hope you live in a communist country whe you get told what 2 eat, where 2 work, when to watch tv n what games you are allow to play or not, when 2 take a $Hl#.............unlike you we want basic rights such as being able 2 choose and decide for ourself
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Re: masta.g.86 - 6 days ago |
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» Oh...
...you poor weaboos. :(
Seriously, why does it even matter that a language that you don't even understand beyond a few gimmicky phrases is there or not? Do you look forward to having to download a translated script for each scene?
...you poor weaboos. :(
Seriously, why does it even matter that a language that you don't even understand beyond a few gimmicky phrases is there or not? Do you look forward to having to download a translated script for each scene?
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Re: truk - 5 days ago |
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» re: houaruto
what the hell is wrong with you?! where did you pull that communist ***** from?! i swear to god, you need to check yourself cause there is no correlation at all in what you said.
you're embarrassing.
what the hell is wrong with you?! where did you pull that communist ***** from?! i swear to god, you need to check yourself cause there is no correlation at all in what you said.
you're embarrassing.
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by Genotype - 6 days ago |
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» ...
I'm excited about this announcement since I was expecting the game to come out several months later. That being said, why aren't the posts here celebrating the announcement, but instead are *****ing about what they wont like about the game? Just come off it for a sec, cause this is supposed to be good news (and it is). I do appreciate the fact that the game is getting its own English song for the English speaking countries, it shows they are worried about localizing the game, not just making quick ports to other countries for extra cash.
I'm excited about this announcement since I was expecting the game to come out several months later. That being said, why aren't the posts here celebrating the announcement, but instead are *****ing about what they wont like about the game? Just come off it for a sec, cause this is supposed to be good news (and it is). I do appreciate the fact that the game is getting its own English song for the English speaking countries, it shows they are worried about localizing the game, not just making quick ports to other countries for extra cash.
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by Stealth! - 6 days ago |
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» Man
March is going to be some crazy month. First Bad Company 2, than FF13, and then the mother of all action games coming, for me at least, God of War 3. I'm going to be mad broke in march. :(
March is going to be some crazy month. First Bad Company 2, than FF13, and then the mother of all action games coming, for me at least, God of War 3. I'm going to be mad broke in march. :(
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by MorbidAugie - 5 days ago |
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» All this is amusing...
This would be a great game ; Sony fanboys vs. M fanboys! got a ring to it...Go SONY!! lol
This would be a great game ; Sony fanboys vs. M fanboys! got a ring to it...Go SONY!! lol
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