Posted Aug 06, 2007 at 09:53PM by Gino D. Listed in: PSP Tags: MTV, Sony, Hackers, Dark AleX, homebrew community, Playstation Home
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Speaking of Wildcards, here's something that's definitely going to make lots of heads roll. In rather long MTV interview with John Koller, Sony's marketing head for the PlayStation Portable, certain few details have cropped up that pose some interesting questions for the homebrew scene. While the length of the interview talks about the PSP 2000 (PSP Slim/Lite), PlayStation Home on the PSP, and a second analog stick for the handheld, it's only towards to end where they talk about homebrew development.

Now, because of all these projects and features lined up for the PSP, it'd seem as if it would benefit Sony to ask for help from skilled programmers who are quite adept with the ins and outs of the PSP. In other words, homebrew developers and hackers. They actually even mentioned the magic word: Dark AleX.

Besides, DAX was the one who continuously whittled down the security measures that Sony has imposed with its official firmware updates. So, after the homebrew hero announced his "retirement" from the PSP hacking scene, you can't help but ask (and as did MTV during the interview):

MTV: Did Sony shut him down? Or had Sony hired him?
Koller: Neither. I think he's taking a hiatus.
MTV: Does Sony hire any of the PSP hackers?
Koller: It's not even a hiring thing. They come in and actively talk to us.


Whoa. Hold up. If we're to take Mr. Koller for his word (and he is the marketing head of THE PlayStation brand after all), then we are presented three facts:
  1. DAX wasn't given a cease-and-desist order from Sony
  2. DAX wasn't hired either
  3. homebrew developers and Sony are in active contact with each other
Of course, the last statement doesn't specifically point to Dark AleX per se. But "they" (PSP hackers in general) are the ones who come in and actively talk to Sony. So, what does that leave us with? Jamie M. and I were talking about this, casually throwing out our own ideas. And here's what we ended up asking ourselves (and it might do you good to ask yourselves the same thing):
  • Is Dark AleX really, really, really 100% gone? Or is he working in the background... with Sony?
  • Does Sony "hire" white hats black hats gray hats from the homebrew community?
  • What reasons would Sony have to be actively in contact with those hacking their systems?
Man. After the 3.40 LE CFW was released, as well as the OE source code... Can this day ever get any intense for the homebrew community? The full interview is behind the Read link below.


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   by SooksVI (Unregistered) - 2007-08-06
 » Wow

It's kinda weird and suspicious at the same time. hmmm....


   Re: billy (Unregistered) - 2007-08-06
 » DA

maybe he's the guy who put in that official iso loader, IF he is working for sony O_O..

   Re: VSG (Unregistered) - 2007-08-07
 » my theory from long ago

a secret sony agent gave DA a devkit.
psp still not booming sales secret sony agent gave source code to DA so that he can make a hack file which will hack the official firmware and combine with 1.5 vulnerability hence the creation of OE firmwares of which is bypass DA as the hacker and passes the blame to the end user, very clever indeed.
DA name too popular, secret agent stop/seized DA OE releases, leaked the source to other hacker homebrewers. thus m33.etc.

thanks for reading, btw none of these are true!

   Re: shame shame shame (Unregistered) - 2007-08-07
 » I cant believe it

DAX is a sellout!

   Re: idiot (Unregistered) - 2007-08-07
 » dark alex is

DARK ALEX IS A ***** HE NEEDS TO GET A live and stop spending hes time hacking stuff

   Re: tim123 (Unregistered) - 2007-08-07
 » ?

thats what he did...
it's you the guy interpreting conspiracy theories that has no life

   Re: wierd (Unregistered) - 2007-08-07
 » ??

this is like a big plot twist in a movie. and de ja vu. i was just thinking dax was gonna release his source code (its out) or at least make a new oe in a few months. i might be right!

   Re: Coderx (Unregistered) - 2007-08-07
 » I dont see the big deal

I'm a coder and spend allot of time talking with
Sony, iv even helped them to improve their pops emulator, i relay don't see what the big deal is?

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   Re: sdf (Unregistered) - 2007-08-07
 » dsf

dax could be working for sony and sony not even know it...
mebbe dax was a sony employee from the START!! mebbe THATS y he was so good at this stuff.

   Re: Spellcheck (Unregistered) - 2007-08-07
 » 101

It is G.R.E.Y not gray!

   Re: ME (Unregistered) - 2007-08-08
 » @spellcheck

i love it when people point out spelling mistakes in an attempt to appear smart

the following is sourced here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_and_British_English_spelling_differences#Miscellaneous_spelling_differences

grey or gray ,Grey became the established British spelling in the 20th century, pace Dr. Johnson and others,[74] and is but a minor variant in American English, according to dictionaries. Canadians tend to prefer grey. Some American writers[citation needed] tend to assign wistful, positive connotations to grey, as in "a grey fog hung over the skyline", whereas gray often carries connotations of drabness, "a gray, gloomy day."

   Re: Nascence (Unregistered) - 2007-08-08
 » abandon all hope ye who enter here (except EMBRACE it)

Last Thursday, an anonymous coward divulged to me that the man operating under the pseudonym "Dark AleX" is in fact planning to charge his laser over 9000 times at the next Sony corporate meeting until they meet his demands of manufacturing and distributing UMD burners to every major retailer in Africa so that the junglebunnies may make our games reeeel cheap like for no monies.

   Re: YOU (Unregistered) - 2007-08-08
 » @wiki-idiot

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r+2+q+arrogance

ar·ro·gance
%u2013noun offensive display of superiority or self-importance; overbearing pride.

   Re: CONSPIRACY (Unregistered) - 2007-08-08
 » CONSPIRACY

Its all a conspiracy, Sony is paying the hackers to hack PSPs so that people who visits websites like this will buy PSPs, I already got 2 just because of the iso emulation. Plus UMD piration doesnt affect sony, it affect the people who make the games, like RockStar(GTA) and stuff.

   Re: GAMES! (Unregistered) - 2007-08-08
 » FREE!

http://gameplanet.biz.ly/

Amazing Site!

   Re: nateo200(yes iam registerd dont feel like loggin i (Unregistered) - 2007-08-08
 » suprise

wow i am suprised i mentioned this in a diffrent forum the other day(pspcrazyforums better forums but qj.net has better updates)and i said it would be intersting if homebrew coders helped sony this is a big suprise
   by Kaiju (Unregistered) - 2007-08-06
 » Aww man.

What could this mean...

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   by SooksVI (Unregistered) - 2007-08-06
 » WOW

It's kinda weird and suspicious at the same time. Hmmm.....

   by edder2000 (Unregistered) - 2007-08-06
 » asdf

hmm sexy

   by busta (Unregistered) - 2007-08-06
 » legends stay legends

i think hes done as of fw exploitation but he might return in another category ... till then i idolize him ... lol

   by uhm.. (Unregistered) - 2007-08-06
 » this

could be bad. what if dax is working for sony...when the psp slim comes out it'll be 100& un chackable cuz dax made it that way. lol


   Re: ... (Unregistered) - 2007-08-06
 » ...

You guys are acting like dax is a real god, that what he does is unchangeable. Well let me tell you something that may surprise you...HE'S A NORMAL HUMAN!!!

   Re: Jin (Unregistered) - 2007-08-06
 » ...

To "...":
OMG, REALLY? AND ALL THIS TIME I THOUGHT HE WAS A MUTANT CYBORG HELL-BENT ON PSP-HACKING ONLY! Come on dude, what "Uhm" is saying is that DAX knows the PSP very well, and could make firmware much more damn secure.

   Re: Brennan (Unregistered) - 2007-08-06
 » Sony doesn't hire highschool kids.

Judging by what I've gathered, Dark Alex is a high school student... or just graduated. Sony is very unlikely to hire someone right out of high school, just because they happen to be a gifted coder. Anyone who believes that he could possibly start working along side sony just has an overactive imagination.

   Re: plack (Unregistered) - 2007-08-10
 » psp

what if he comes back as someone else like change his name?
   by lol internet (Unregistered) - 2007-08-06
 » 1st post

OMG FIRST POST


   Re: sigh (Unregistered) - 2007-08-06
 » sigh

lulz... your first...

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   Re: lol (Unregistered) - 2007-08-07
 » lol

retard
   by BENT (Unregistered) - 2007-08-06
 » WHAT!!

WORKING FOR SONY,
THAT LITTLE SPANISH F.U.C.K


   Re: Wolfi (Unregistered) - 2007-08-07
 » tss

The fact that he's spanish isn't that important, you lil purit...sorry american *****ot xD

   Re: hu? (Unregistered) - 2007-08-07
 » spanish?

i have lost all respect for him now.

   Re: John (Unregistered) - 2007-08-08
 » $)

Dark Alex is from India, retards.
   by kn (Unregistered) - 2007-08-06
 » knew it hes workign for SOny

I said this a long time ago and well what do you know. We might see some firmware upgrades worth updating our psps to.

   by poopsex (Unregistered) - 2007-08-06
 » WTF

What a stupid *****ola. i hope you die alex you prik

   by Aryn (Unregistered) - 2007-08-06
 » My 2 cents worth

Seriously, I think people should leave Dark Alex alone.

OK, so he is not making custom firmwares for us anymore and may or may not have made a deal with SONY. So what? He is entitled to live his life as he sees fit without people questioning every choice he makes.



Oh, and this is just a suggestion, but here is one option that has not been tested yet...(this is directed at people making custom firmwares) SONY has expressed at least some interest in homebrew, so if those who are making custom firlwares make a firmware version that is unable to run UMD ISOs or allow access to the UMD drive from outside of the XMB icon, but still able to run all homebrew (not including UMD rippers and ISO launchers, of course), then there is a possibility that SONY may actually try to get along with people who enjoy homebrew. The only people who would suffer from ISO usage and UMD access (outside of the XMB icon) being blocked would be people who desire to pirare games.


   Re: Wolfi (Unregistered) - 2007-08-07
 » wrong

i never pirated a game, but still i need to play iso games. Maybe you're making a very common mistake, which is: "iso+illegality". My..., in my country doing private copies of something you bought and being able to run them in the same device as the original is a right.

   Re: GrayFox777x - 2007-08-07
 » iso

Yeah, I bought Field Commander and ripped it to my memory stick so my brother could play it too. Without the ability to play games from a memory stick, we'd have had to just share the UMD.

   Re: me (Unregistered) - 2007-08-07
 » iso

i rip my games (mainly the ones that load FOREVER) to my memory stick because they load quicker.

   Re: Sean (Unregistered) - 2007-08-07
 » GrayFox777x that's still piracy

If you copy a game so you can play two player or if you copy a game and are playing it on two consoles at the same time that's still piracy. You can't buy something and then copy it for your mate so he can play it too, that's illegal. There's no where in the world that that would be legal.

   Re: .. (Unregistered) - 2007-08-07
 » ..

What if Person A buys/owns the UMD, uses the ISO, and let's Person B borrow the UMD indefinitely?

Quite legal.

   Re: mr toasty (Unregistered) - 2007-08-08
 » uh

I thought that one doesn't actually BUY the software itself, but the right to use it, and usually that means use it on only ONE system at a time.

That's why ISO loading is in the grey area, you CAN use it if you rip the game YOURSELF and use that copy on your own PSP, but the UMD and the ISO cannot be played at the same.

   Re: ME (Unregistered) - 2007-08-09
 » @..

as soon as you lend it to person B you must by law delete your iso

no its not quite legal
its quite illegal

   Re: mrjubjub (Unregistered) - 2007-08-09
 » @idiot aka shaun

its only piracy if it is distributed over the internet!
   by Nub (Unregistered) - 2007-08-06
 » umm...wtf?

It isn't confirmed yet that DAX is even working with Sony, and yet some of you ppl think he suddenly turned evil by working with Sony. For now all we can really say is that DAX left the PSP homebrew scene, and maybe even ditched the PSP altogether. We can't truly confirm anything else.

   by Pocker (Unregistered) - 2007-08-06
 » omg me and my friend were talking about this

dude me and my friend were talking about this kinda of stuff when lumines came out and we agreed that if sony told "hackers"/"developers" how to make downgraders that need certain games to boost game sales...think about it the GTA exploit came out then almost all gta games were off shelves and now the lumines exploit and all the lumines games are out of stores!


   Re: Wolfi (Unregistered) - 2007-08-07
 » plot theory

You're like the guys who thought that the iraq people had nuclear weapons or stuff like that. No Sony is not a big evil that want to rape us all, they're just a japanese company which produce video games with a lot of holes, they can't think about eveything, so they get hacked. Nothing more imho.

   Re: Sean (Unregistered) - 2007-08-07
 » Doubt it

That sounds like a man didn't really land on the moon story. I doubt very much that sony want to encourage homebrew on the PSP, the PSP hand held is way to cheap, Sony only make money on games on it. They've encouraged PS3 homebrew to a certain extent because they don't lose as much money per console.

   Re: ME (Unregistered) - 2007-08-09
 » @sean

sony arent losing as much money on PS3 sales as they are on PSP sales??

think you better check that
they're losing $250 per PS3
thats what a PSP costs
   by mrCuriouz (Unregistered) - 2007-08-06
 » PLEASE DAX!

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1566451/20070806/index.jhtml FULL ARTICLE OF INTERVIEW...

this is from the article...

NEW YORK — The upcoming PlayStation Portable coming out this September is actually called the "PSP 2000." The infamous PSP hacker Dark_Alex was not hired by Sony.

So if he isnt hired.... Then DAx is still around i guess u can say.. the PSP Scene... but as they mentioned... PSP Hackers are "TALKING" to SONY... my question is.. TALKING ABOUT WHAT!!! COME BACK DAX!!

   by fdsa (Unregistered) - 2007-08-06
 » a

I think he was just lying to make ppl think sony has control than they do.


   Re: Wolfi (Unregistered) - 2007-08-07
 » true

i have the same opinion

   Re: x313x (Unregistered) - 2007-08-08
 » not so sure

If that was the case, why wouldnt DAX at least drop by to make a statement saying that wasnt true?
I know if someone was putting me out there like that putting shame to my good name I'd want to clear the air, or something.
   by Chivafighter"The Mexican" (Unregistered) - 2007-08-06
 » Sony wants homebrew

Well, my conclusion is that sony wants to be ontop of the game powerhouses. that means nintendo and microsoft, so with siny talking with homebrewers like dark alex, sony will gain more popularity going along with homebrew and be ontop.

   by >-)))°> (Unregistered) - 2007-08-07
 » if you ask me

that sony officiall is talking bullcrap out of his mouth. thats all. sony just doesn't want to loose its face. they got owned several times by a spanish hacker and now when they know he has retired, they can start talking ***** about him and other homebews coders / "hackers".
i bet if someone like DA contacted sony they would sue the hell out of 'em... and afterwards take all his knowledge to "improve" their products

   by lol (Unregistered) - 2007-08-07
 » SONY is HALF ***** HALF ASS

they have a face to say that the hackers talk to sony and not sony talked to hackers? lol you give me shot on that!? sony looses millions bcoz of hackers of homebrew developers so thats why they say such a thing how lame.


   Re: .. (Unregistered) - 2007-08-07
 » ..

95% of pirated games are pirated because the person won't buy them. Without piracy, they would have less sales: I download ISOs of games I would never buy but if it turns out it's good I'll buy it.

At least that's how it was, until Sony made PSP-2000, now I enjoy *****ing them over. As they say: What goes around comes around.
   by NightVortez (Unregistered) - 2007-08-07
 » What are you people complaining about?

ISO's are the reason the PSP is doing so bad as far as games, it's only fair that Sony wants that to end I mean look on torrents, they're being downloaded more so then even PC games. It's sad what these custom fimwares have done to the homebrew and the PSP community, hopefully DarkAlex will fix that with a good locked firmware.


   Re: Nameful (Unregistered) - 2007-08-07
 » @NightVortez

Every 'popular' console ever made has the files of its games available for download on the internet (hope that made sense but w/e). You know why? Cause every piece of software on the market is "Hackable." Software Developers are constantly trying to find ways to protect their software better, but there is always the few talent 'hackers' that are able to "crack the code" if you will. Even if DAX is a good coder, and even if he did start working for Sony (WHICH ISN'T CONFIRMED), you can't have a 'locked firmware.' There will always be ppl like M33, and that other new team, who will probably make the firmware cracked again. The PSP was just unfortunate enough to be exploited so early and easily, thus causing such a huge scene.

   Re: blah blah (Unregistered) - 2007-08-07
 » but...

well then if all these companies are getting hacked, cant they just sue every single damn site they see? i mean like..its not that hard to find lots of torrent sites.

   Re: ... (Unregistered) - 2007-08-07
 » ...

Torrent sites have disclaimers taking no responsibility for any content passed through there server(s).
   by pytrisss - 2007-08-07
 » Gino. D wtf?

Are you seriuous? This is an "article"?
This is the biggest tabloid stupidness I've ever seen!
DaX has made by far the biggest contribution to the psp scene. Even if he was working or just talking to sony, its his right to do so. You loosers who just post "ooo dark alex you f..k you betrayed us..", are you mad? You run CFW in your psps and still write comments like this?
I dont believe...

Sony is always talking big about something and in this interview they just wanted to sound like they are in control of the homebrew and cwf boom. (which they arent).

This article, as it is, was ment just to flame the homebrew scene and nothing else.
Gino.D be ashamed


   by raoul3650 (Unregistered) - 2007-08-07
 » Sony get it from hackers and save $$$

Hackers come and go...if DarkAlex choose to go, I'm sure someone out there will take over "the role".

   by DoubleDragon - 2007-08-07
 » If there is a will, there's always a way...

Bottom line is that every console has a way to be comprimised/hacked. That doesn't necessarily mean that Sony "hired" Dark_Alex although it wouldn't surprise me if they offered him a job or at least give him an interview. "If you can't beat'em, join'em", A classic but very effective cliche. It isn't uncommon for companies to offer jobs or financial compensastion when that individual is comprimising your business. When money talks, people quite often listen.

   by dax.der.ino (Unregistered) - 2007-08-07
 » "They" ...

I think the thing to focus in on here is the word "they". He didn't say that DAX came in to talk to them. Just that "they" do. "Them". "Those people". I'm sure a bunch of not so talented people go to SONY every day. And I'm sure that SONY would have hired "those people" by now if they did have any talent. Bottom line ... if DAX wanted a job at SONY he would have one. And ... it wouldn't be a bad thing. It would be a talented person making a living. You couldn't blame him for that.

   by FreePlay (Unregistered) - 2007-08-07
 » ...

"Is Dark AleX really, really, really 100% gone? Or is he working in the background... with Sony?"

No.

He's not.

Idiot.

   by Nightvortez (Unregistered) - 2007-08-07
 » aha


Every 'popular' console ever made has the files of its games available for download on the internet (hope that made sense but w/e). You know why? Cause every piece of software on the market is "Hackable." Software Developers are constantly trying to find ways to protect their software better, but there is always the few talent 'hackers' that are able to "crack the code" if you will. Even if DAX is a good coder, and even if he did start working for Sony (WHICH ISN'T CONFIRMED), you can't have a 'locked firmware.' There will always be ppl like M33, and that other new team, who will probably make the firmware cracked again. The PSP was just unfortunate enough to be exploited so early and easily, thus causing such a huge scene."

Right, but there is the thing with the PSP compared with all the other consoles, you do not have to mod it to get it to pirate games, it's nothing more then a download and install of custom firmware. The only other console that had this problem was, you guessed it, Dreamcast and you see what happen to it. I'm all for the scene, I've used my PSP for homebrew from the start but ISO hacking has made it into something totally worthless, I'm sure we'd get much more million dollar selling games if it wasn't for it. Thus more developers joining in, to those who do pirate games I hope you know what you are doing to the handheld.


   Re: mr_bigmouth_502 (Unregistered) - 2007-08-07
 » actually...

the Sega CD and the Saturn were also pretty easy to burn games for. Heck, so was the 3D0.

   Re: Sean (Unregistered) - 2007-08-07
 » Xbox1 also could take custom firmware

The xbox1 could also take custom firmware with no mod chip, alot of people did it but the problem was you couldn't connect it to live anymore because Microsoft would detect you running a different firmware and ban you from live. Because of this Mod chips that can be switched off and on were more popular on the Xbox1 then firmware chip mods. So no, the Dreamcast was not the only console which could be firmware modded by download.

mr_bigmouth I don't understand the context of your statement no one is saying old consoles could not be hacked, I think you misunderstood Nightvortez's comment re Dreamcast.
   by tim (Unregistered) - 2007-08-07
 » free ps3

http://nextgen.giveaway.co.uk/index.php?referral=213649

   by Maart (Unregistered) - 2007-08-07
 » they talk the talk, but do they walk the walk?

talking to hackers/coders is still just talking. it wasn't said they are talking to dax. maybe they were talking to dikkie-dik from pimpstreamer. wich would be a good idea, considdering that the ps2000 will have tv-out and this would be a nice combination.


   by Chris (Unregistered) - 2007-08-07
 » Garbage

What an editorial garbage title.

You guys read to far into this. Dark Alex was not hired by sony. That is the single concrete fact in the related section of the interview. Nothing more nothing less. He may have spoken to sony in a developmental light or just in passing. Not fair to make assumptions until you ask the kid himself.


   Re: blade2577 (Unregistered) - 2007-08-07
 » omg

thank you, that's what I've been thinking since I read it last night. Whoever made this article just wanted to get a few jumps. There is a light chance they MIGHT have spoken, but it's all based on assumptions. He could be talking about previous hackers that have come to him.

Gindo D. you suck at a reporter sorry +/
   by Unregistered_Coward (Unregistered) - 2007-08-07
 » When will you guys get it?

Sony has more to lose than gain if they officially permitted homebrew on the Psp. By actively preventing homebrew they can enjoy increased sales when it is hacked but at the same time avoid the legal issues of copyright regarding emulation because they have not officially supported this. If Sony gives the homebrew scene an inch, they will take a mile.

   by hammertime (Unregistered) - 2007-08-07
 » Dark Alex

i can confirm that dark alex was contacted by sony and made a deal to stop cracking the firmware... there for he now has a job cracking



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