Posted Sep 04, 2008 at 02:05PM by Gino D. Listed in: Wii, PlayStation 3, Xbox 360 Tags: Microsoft, Sony, North America, price drop, Jesse Divnich
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The title probably says it all - and I would rather not touch this subject with a 20-foot pole lest I get personally flamed for reporting what someone else said. But report I must. So let's just have all those quotes hang out to dry, now shall we?

Jesse Divnich of Electronic Entertainment Design and Research (EEDAR) is forecasting that for this year's holiday season, the PS3 might be bowing down to the Xbox 360, while the Nintendo Wii need not worry about anything at all.

His forescasts seem to hinge on the fact that the Xbox 360 is getting a price cut - which, by the way, he previously predicted (see related articles below) and turned out to be right on the money. His suggestion right now is that Sony might want to opt for a price cut too, so that they could stay competitive for the holidays.

Speaking to Edge, Jesse Divnich said the following:

[Between Sony and Nintendo,] Sony should be the most concerned [about the 360's price cut]. Going into this holiday season, the PS3 will not only have the highest price point, but also the smallest software library, weaker line-up of exclusive titles (compared to Xbox 360’s Gears of War 2 and Fable 2), and a less popular online network.


I suspect that the reason why Sony has been so adamant about maintaining its current price point is because it has not reached a more efficient scale in its manufacturing of the PS3.


Long-term, I don't think anyone doubts the success of the PS3, however it is currently looking like the Xbox 360 will win another holiday season against the PS3 in North America.


While Sony and Microsoft seem to be keeping up the pace with each other, Divnich also commented on the third console, the Nintendo Wii.

Nintendo need not worry about Microsoft, or anyone else for that matter. Nintendo will always be its own worst enemy (in terms of keeping up with demand).


Nintendo has so much wiggle room on the Wii’s pricing that they will never be afraid of a competitor trying to use price as a differentiating feature. If they ever felt threatened, they could drop the Wii down to $149 and destroy a competitors momentum. But in this particular case, Nintendo won’t feel too threatened by an Xbox 360 price drop.




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   by DontCryIfYouDie - 2008-09-04
 » weak exclusive line up??

dont want to be a fanboy here, i own both consoles and defnitly picking up fable 2. but the Ps3 has quite a few exclusives which are set to come out. restence 2, little big planet, motor storm 2, killzone 2 and socom. now to me that doesnt sound to bad, killzone is after christmas but anywho.


   Re: DontCryIfYouDie - 2008-09-04
 » typo in my sentence

I ment resistance 2

   Re: TheDude - 2008-09-04
 » my exact thoughts

How anyone could say Sony has the weaker line up this holiday season is beyond me. Some of my friends that own 360's have even said they are a bit jealous of what PS3 is getting in the next few months. I'm sorry but four huge titles (ones you listed) compared to Gears 2 and Fable 2? My PS3 is definitely getting all the love this holiday season. Oh and not to mention Home!! We'll see how less popular the PSN becomes once that releases! So the 360 still might sell more in NA but I bet overall the PS3 will come out on top.

   Re: wilmheath - 2008-09-04
 » what flavor?

What flavor koolaid did sony give you today?

Wanna know why the 360 is doing so well..
http://games.ign.com/topgames/ Go check out that list. Wanna bet which game sells more resistance 2 or gears 2? I'm all in on gears. I am however highly looking forward to playing little big planet on my ps3. I'm a fanboy realist. I know I prefer my 360 but i'll game on the ps3 when the game is better.

   Re: death - 2008-09-04
 » yay he's a fanboy

@wilmheath glad to see youve realized your a fanboy

now as for ur bet :D $50 canadian says resistance 2 gets a higher rating than gears 2

which one sells more? who the F#$% cares?

the flavor was cherry, did ms let you take off ur gimp mask today :D (watch the personal attacks man. it doesnt feel so nice reversed does it)



   Re: wilmheath - 2008-09-05
 » @death

your reply made no sense. And yes I would take that bet 100 times over that gears2 rates higher. After playing resistance 1 I have no freakin clue how it got a 9.1 on ign. The menu was something from quake1 with the ugly random cords with sparks. I mean seriously that was done back in the 90's.

   Re: TheDude - 2008-09-05
 » the menu

Are you freaking serious? Your complaining about the menu that is like 0.01% of the entire game?

   Re: ISOHaven - 2008-09-11
 » WTF!?!?!?!?!

I'm starting to notice a pattern here with wilmheath. He seems to draw conclusions based on VERY narrow perspectives.
   by Spawnx777x - 2008-09-04
 » stupid analyst

get a real job you stupid analyst -yst

   by prodygee - 2008-09-04
 » ugh

Stop the comparing already. There at least is something for everyone..


   Re: Binary - 2008-09-04
 » AMEN

AMEN BROTHER AMEN!!!

   Re: evilgenius101 - 2008-09-13
 » THATS

what is was sayin, stop comparing, if all were the same we'd b complainin about variety, there is sum, so let those who want one r the other get one r the other, none of us here benifit from console r game sale!!!...i personally dont care who sells more, make everything easier and more accessible, i'm the consumer, my job is to make demands that the electronic companies cant bring to reality!!!, lol
   by ISOHaven - 2008-09-04
 » WTF!?!?!?!?!

With the price drop this is somewhat understandable. 360 sales will get a boost this holiday season. Familys on a budget will sway toward the 360 over the PS3.

However, even though the 360 has a cheaper version then the Wii, the Wii will still KICK the 360's ASS!!!!


   Re: Binary - 2008-09-04
 » ....

yeah only the wii itself and not their games.

   Re: ISOHaven - 2008-09-04
 » WTF!?!?!?!?!

Let's just "pretend" that the Wii games suck. A Wii with no games just means the online experience is enough for people. So then according to your logic the Wii's online experience stomps XBL?

Or are you saying the Wii plus Wii Sports is what is stomping all over the 360?

Either way you look at it, the Wii is doing somethign the 360 can never do. Bring in the 720 and try again!

   Re: Izuna - 2008-09-04
 » So-

ISOHaven, I agree with you...
Wii should bring in the 720p and try again, maybe then it'll get good games other than Mario Galaxy, heh it probably could've had DQ9 and half of Japan would have bought one....

Not that it matters because half of Japan already has one anyways. *sigh*

The Wii has a different market to the PS360; I'm sure every knows this.

err... I wonder if IU will do great in Japan?
I'm holding out for The Last Remnant.

   Re: Yamagushi - 2008-09-05
 » Morons..

@Isohaven, Wii sells more systems not more games, Xbox360 Pwnz Wii when it comes to software... The reason for this is Wii is like Beanie Babies, Its a fad so everyone buying it, but once they do they realize its useless... And as for Wii games, its not hard to pretend when its true.

Izuna- He meant bring in the Xbox720, not give wii 720p...

   Re: ISOHaven - 2008-09-05
 » WTF!?!?!?!?!

@Izuna - You agree with what? I didn't say 720p, I said, to MS, to bring in the 720 and try again as in Xbox 720. That fact of the matter is, MS is currently busting their hump to make the 360 MORE LIKE the Wii. MS knows they blew it and now they're trying to fix it.

@Yamagushi - I didn't say anything about software sales. So, who's the moron? That would be you.

Yes, the 360 sells more TITLES however the Wii has it's titles that sell WAY MORE then 360 titles.

Here's something you don't seem to understand....QUALITY over QUANTITY. Obviously MORE PEOPLE on this planet consider GAME PLAY to be QUALITY then just graphics in itself.
   by darkfrost - 2008-09-04
 » Pfft.

Nintendo's sales will plummet soon.

You know why?


Everyone will already have a Wii at this rate.


   Re: tanman37 - 2008-09-04
 » Well said

Aha, you have a point. Which is why they already have their next 5 consoles ready. :D As soon as an overstock in one, BOOM. Send out another.


/Sarcasn
   by hairycanary2 - 2008-09-04
 » Not going to happen .

I read somewhere that the PS3 is shy of about 5 mil to catch up to the 360. Thats because the 360 was about two years ahead of the comp . If anything the 360 will spiral further down further, I mean the gamecube was cheap by all means, though it could still not sell more than the Dreamcast .(lol) Anyways the Wii will stay up there, it's about time Nintendo did something to the way we game .


   Re: ISOHaven - 2008-09-04
 » WTF!?!?!?!?!

Yeah but.... The PS3 has always been 5 mil away. Whichis neither bad or good.

A lot of people claim the PS3 is too expensive and it isn't doing well. BS! The PS3 to date has sold the same amount of units PER YEAR as the 360. They are both doing exactly the same.

   Re: hairycanary2 - 2008-09-04
 » Well

All I can hope for is that LBP and Resistance will change that to a +5mil rather ..

   Re: ISOHaven - 2008-09-05
 » WTF!?!?!?!?!

Exactly! That and FF13.
   by Silver-Tiger - 2008-09-04
 » Wow....

I read a lot of stupid comments from analysts( believe me, a read A LOT), but this is by far the dumbest.

   by RexNox - 2008-09-04
 » So much lies on...

LBP and Home...and what Sony does with it.


   Re: RexNox - 2008-09-04
 » To those who disagree...

and that punk who knows who is...

If LBP is given the attention Warhawk receives, these analysts will be eating their words.

If Sony craps all over LPB and HOME, it's all done.

Mark my words.
   by Jin Wu - 2008-09-04
 » total idiot

I can't believe these guys get paid for this crap. Oil prices set by "speculators" and game industry "experts" predict our buying trends!

What a joke!

   by Nevers - 2008-09-04
 » On the last day of Christmas

My True Love gave to me ;

5 dooties calling
4 flamers hating
3 halos playing
2 gears a'warring

And a cartidge game on a new Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii


Ugh....

>.<

Santa... I want Red Rider BB Gun.


   Re: Pacos - 2008-09-04
 » :D

Hahahahahah,

That was great :D
   by thefinalhero - 2008-09-04
 » thefinalhero:Analyst is on crack.

Though the price cut on the 360 will obviously result in higher sales (I'm now considering buying one, just because they're so cheap now), it's definitely not software that's selling it. Though Gears and Fable are huge games, I doubt they're going to be the most dominating of titles this holiday season (Though I can see close competition between Gears and Little Big Planet, maybe Resistance 2/SOCOM if it lives up to the hype it's been getting). Even if the 360 sells more this holiday, it's not going to be a landslide of more units sold than the PS3, which in fact, does have the stronger line up going into the holiday season. Guess Microsoft can rely on those pre-pubescent gamers who need Mommy and Daddy to buy them Gears for Christmas...

   by hairycanary2 - 2008-09-04
 » SONY

Sony has taken real big risks and they ALWAYS seems to work..well except with the VHS war ..but they have allot more experience now . They have proven these guys wrong many times . Again it's not the first time they've hated on the S to the ONY. lol had to say that .

   by TouchDaSkeleton - 2008-09-04
 » ...

but I like Sony

   by death - 2008-09-04
 » lol

i just sprayed coke out my nose

   by mr.x256 - 2008-09-04
 » -

Maybe this guy knows of some new 360 hardware failures that are about to pop up. Just kidding

   by NarooN - 2008-09-05
 » whoa. weak exlusive lineup?

I was just gonna let all the fanboys duke it out, but wow, he must be foolish if he thinks Fable 2 and Gears 2 is somehow canceling out games like Resistance 2, Motorstorm 2, Little Big Planet (Yeah, wtf forgets this?), Socom Confrontation, etc.

I mean, seriously.

   by izkjon - 2008-09-05
 » What?

X360 people, please go to your site of QJ.Net this is for Sony fanboys only and I am one of them.
By the way, the ps3 is going to do well this holiday season. The game that I'm defently going to buy is "LittleBig Planet" and if their were still making "The Gateway" I'll buy that too.

Peace out11

   by jmak0 - 2008-09-05
 » He's WRONG

This guy has obviously been hiding under a rock for the past 6 months, as he's seemingly oblivious to the fact PS3 has sold more units than PS2 sold in the same stage in it's lifecycle, and it is in fact catching up with the 360, as 360 sales are slowing down. PS3 has way more announced exclusive titles coming up, I can think of Motorstorm 2, Wipeout HD, Resistance 2, Killzone 2, GT5, LBP, SOCOM, MAG, InFAMOUS, Tekken 6, FF Vs.XIII, God of War 3, just off the top of my head. This guy is a numbskull. Max Payne 3 and a new game from Rockstar are also on their way to PS3 exclusivity. Not to mention the exclusives that are already in shops, and multiplatform games. Do I need to say more?


   Re: ackeejag - 2008-09-05
 » exactly

the only 360 games that i can think of are Gears 2, fable and the final fantasy XIII port from the ps3 version.
yes, it is a port since the ps3 version will be completed in japanese first and then they will work on porting and localization after that. thanks M$, now i have to wait a year for my game just so you can get a crappy version on 4 disk.

   Re: trigger - 2008-09-05
 » @jmak0

but in those exclusive titles you mentioned, how many of them are actually going to be available by christmas 2008? (or maybe even xmas 2009?)

your argument is misplaced. the analyst is taking into account 2008. you aren't.

not to flame you tho. i still think the analyst himself is a douche.

   Re: yoh - 2008-09-05
 » @trigger

at least he mention more than the analyst, Resistance 2, Motorstorm 2, LBP, also Bioshock and Fallout 3 are comming up. So I just said BS.
   by logicbomb.de - 2008-09-05
 » nows a great time to own a PS3

Seriously

ESPECIALLY if you already own a 360.

Why? amazing exclusives plus free online.

If you already have a XBL account, why pay for another online service? wait, you don't have to!!

I personally get the x-plat games for 360 if there a significant multi-player aspect (move of my friends have LIVE) , and just get the exclusives for PS3, no point in having the same game for 2 different consoles.

seriously guys it so win-win to have both machines its not even funny.

I know not everyone has the money to spend hundreds on game consoles but if you do and have both you know exactly what I mean.



   Re: ackeejag - 2008-09-05
 » idort.jpg

oh hi there.

   Re: Sanzee - 2008-09-05
 » Xbox Live is a Premium Service - PSN is not.

Most people in this world would rather pay for a premium product, then recieve a bad product for free.

The only thing in this world you'll find that is good and free is a woman. But even they end up costing money over time. I don't like this either but I'm not going to deny it.

For most members, it's around 50 dollars a year. That's 4-5 dollars a month. No company will make a premium product if they do not intend on making a profit.

I honestly don't know why Sony fans haven't realized the Xbox dominates online service.

   Re: blkthunda - 2008-09-05
 » Sanzee

How can you say XBL is a premium service? Most of the game that actually uses the online service is shooting games. So why not use the online to play for free instead? Don't say it has better server or lag free, that's just bull*****. I tried XBL and it didn't have anything better than the PSN beside that chatting thingy.
   by scarface_tha_second - 2008-09-05
 » wow

this ***** thinks she's psychic....SO WHAT IF 360 outsells PS3 in North America...It is likely going to get pwnd in worldwide sales, which is really the only thing that matters.

   by Sanzee - 2008-09-05
 » Wisdom for us Xbox Fans!

Fellow 360 fans, take in the words of this analyst. This holiday belongs to us.

When fans of the PS3 lash out against this article, and believe me they will, there is something that you all should realize. B*tching and moaning doesn't win console wars.

Be the bigger man and ignore your rivals. They cannot stand to hear anything regarding the Xbox winning. Haters will comment, whiners will whine, and flamers will flame. If one truly believes that their console is better, they do not need to prove it.

However, Xbox fans are guilty of this as well. Stop feeling like you need to defend our console. We will win, I promise. Knowing the truth will keep you content.

Just take a seat, hold your guide-button, and when that logo appears on screen tell yourself this: We don't have a damn thing to worry about.

   by ISOHaven - 2008-09-08
 » WTF!?!?!?!?!

"They cannot stand to hear anything regarding the Xbox winning."

That's hilarious!!! Even though MS reps have stated that they feel strongly that the 360 WILL come in second over the PS3.

Second....is....not....winning....!!!! HAHAHAHA!!!!!